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How about a Spyderco NYC?

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by gomipile, Mar 15, 2013.

  1. gomipile


    Apr 17, 2010

    I'm thinking it could be time for a 3.95" blade UKPK-style slipjoint with a nice big comfortable choil. Something just barely within the Cyrus Vance, Jr. interpretation of knife legality in NY. Heck, give it a mean looking FRN Native-style spear point blade and call it the "Spyderco Cyrus Vance, Jr."


    Let the fun commence. :D
  2. Ernie1980

    Ernie1980 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 19, 2012
    The lawmakers would love that! They would prob respond by lowering the legal limit by .1 inch:)
  3. goodeyesniper


    Aug 31, 2009
    that wouldn't pass their street definition of legality. if the nypd Gestapo-oops I mean police-can Spydie drop your knife, then they will call it an illegal gravity knife. basically no one hand opening knife is safe.
  4. gomipile


    Apr 17, 2010
    A slipit can't be "Spydie dropped" because the "Spydie drop" is a method to open the blade to the locking position. A slipit does not lock, therefore cannot be "Spydie dropped."

    New York courts have already found that balisongs are not gravity knives because they do not automatically lock when swung fully open, for instance.
  5. 9blades


    Dec 29, 2012
    Not cheap but there is the spyderco friction folder coming out at some point......
  6. gomipile


    Apr 17, 2010
    Incidentally, the inspiration for this thread is my purchase today of a Squeak. It's my first Spyderco slipit, and I absolutely love it.
  7. The Mastiff

    The Mastiff

    Apr 21, 2006
    message deleted. It came out sounding political.
  8. powernoodle

    powernoodle Power Member

    Jul 21, 2004
    The Spyderco Bloomberg would have nice, finely sculpted G10 scales, milled stainless liners, deep carry wire clip, no blade and MSRP at $390.
  9. tatteredmidnight


    Mar 19, 2010
    The UKPK is very close to a NYC knife. I'd prefer some sane laws from NYC over a special knife, but that's never gonna happen. I live about 20mi out of the city, and have family in the boroughs. I hate having to do an equipment check before visiting.
  10. The Deacon

    The Deacon

    Apr 27, 2003
    Well, given that they've named knives for a communist newspaper and an extinct bird whose name is a synonym for stupidity, naming one for Vance wouldn't surprise me.
  11. bh49


    Dec 27, 2005
    somehow I missed this :eek: Just curious what knife is it?
    I hope it will not come to "Pravda" or "Iskra" :)
  12. Dabakr


    Mar 7, 2013
    woah. goes to show how out of touch people get. I visit my daughter in Brooklyn and Manhattan twice a month and never thought to check my edc which up til recently was either a kershaw leek or crown. I never even thought about it. If-on the off chance I was stopped and a cop did happen to check my pockets what would I be subject to-confiscation or are we talking more serious then a ticket? need to(should)know.
  13. tatteredmidnight


    Mar 19, 2010
    As far as I know you can be charged with felony possession of a weapon. I do know its an arrestable offense and not just a ticket/confiscation.

    [EDIT] Another note, as far as i remember you have to have any knife completely concealed, so no pocket clips. NYC is crazy. I am going to verify and will update my post.

    [EDIT 2]
    New York Penal - Article 265 - ยง 265.15 Presumptions of Possession,
    Unlawful Intent and Defacement]

    So it looks like yes, its waaay more serious than a ticket and confiscation, there is a presumption that you intend to use it unlawfully.
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2013
  14. goodeyesniper


    Aug 31, 2009
    it's all a huge gray area. or at least, it was. For instance, a previous poster said a NY court ruled that balisongs do not count as gravity knives, however I have never heard of this ruling. it is either very recent or it had simply been ignored by the police officers. I also know the cops were ruling ANY knife that could be flicked or Spydie dropped open were illegal.

    They were mostly confiscating and ticketing people, as it was a money making operation more than anything.

    Here's the thing you have to remember about laws, if a cop convinces you it was illegal, and you plead guilty, you can be convicted. Even if the knife was 100% legal, with well documented legislation supporting it...

    I used to work with a guy who had a criminal record partially made up of "carrying a concealed dirk or dagger" here in California, for carrying a legal folding knife. He was a young punk, and he didn't know the laws and he plead out.

    Hell, I've spoken to a couple officers here who thought Cali had a 3" blade limit and I had to inform them otherwise... Which is always interesting, lol.
  15. KrisOK


    Oct 17, 2012
    I always keep a copy of the section of the state code covering legal carry in my wallet. Also a letter reply from the city DA clarifying that assisted knives are legal here. I've never had to pull them out yet, but if I do ever get called on my knife I'll have the documentation that I need.

    Actually, it took like 3 months of bugging the DA's office to get them to clarify the law in writing. I think that they would have preferred to let the local LE's have more leeway.
  16. The Deacon

    The Deacon

    Apr 27, 2003
    Their first, the Worker. When I was young and working in a store that sold all kinds of newspapers, that was what folks would ask for when they wanted the Daily Worker, which was published by the American Communist Party.
  17. gomipile


    Apr 17, 2010
    People v. Zuniga, March 31, 2003 in the Supreme Court, Appellate Division, Second Department, New York.
  18. MrGlockJock25


    May 14, 2012
    Good thing it has milled liners. Wouldn't want to have it over 12 ounces!!
  19. Dabakr


    Mar 7, 2013
    well-I am not going to worry about my EDC carry of a persistence, Y2 (tho that blade might be the one most likely as an edc to be scrutinized). I have noticed lately that I am of the age where a lot of the cops are young kids (gals and guys) and their more likely to call me "sir" then back in the days was was wearing wife beaters with my tats showing on my Triumph Bonny. I do own a Frank B stiletto which I would never carry concealed and everything else would be clipped and visible and I just don't think I present a 'conceal' problem for NYC cops. However-I would NEVER plead guilty-even if issued a minor cit. I would fight it.
  20. Bile Bob

    Bile Bob Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    The best answer to New York City..


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