How about selecting a Ruger #1?

I have thought about the BC handi rifle. I am not against such things. It might be the wiser, more frugal choice.

Also, one could say that the Handi rifles are almost "modular", so to speak!;)

Munk pretty much has me pegged though.

In the handi rifle the 500 S&W intrigues me more than the BC though. One could duplicate the 50-70 pretty well there. Mighty light rifle though!

I know, you carry more than shoot, yadda, etc.

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Shots will be 150 or less. We will ride out (horseback) to find the herd, then dismount and get close enough for a shot. If anyone has a copy of RIFLE Jan 2007, the outfitter is described in an article in that issue. I engraved the '76 on the cover. My boss went out and shot a Bison, along with the Editor from RIFLE. He brought back a whole heap of meat! My 40lbs sure did taste good!

The other rifle on the cover is an 1886, with a short barrel, in 50 AK, or 50 Express. 600 gr bullet at 1200 fps is the so called "Thumper" load. I didn't get to cut that one.

I suppose my M48 Yugo would kill a Bison just fine, but I think a bigger bullet would be more fitting. I'd like to see the animal go as quickly as possible. There will be guys backing me up.

I've got a bid on a 375 right now. I'll know by tonight if i get it. If not, I have a heirarchy of guns to try for over the next few days, so it may come down to the best one I can get for a price I am willing to pay.

Thanks to all you Vets out there, we are able to have discussions about such things. Not a matter of bare survival at all. Just a luxury I (we)am(are) blessed with, at this time.

I don't deserve it one bit.
I am grateful though!

Tom
 
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John,

That BC is not un elegant at all. There is coolness factor there as well.

Options are good!

Tom
 
I have and use both .375 H&H and 45-70 in the Ruger #1. With high end loads, I find the lighter 45-70 kicks more. The 9 pound .375 is a joy to shoot; if you hold it firmly in the pocket of your shoulder, it will move you around some but doesn't really rap you like a .300 Mag. The 45-70 is more pleasant to tote around, and is a great gun for hunting in timber. If you even think you may take a shot at two hundred yards or over, go with the .375.
Check out one thing for me though. I recently heard a friend say he drove to Kansas for a Buffalo "hunt"......As it turned out the "hunt" was one buffalo released into 36 acres of pasture to be shot by the "hunter". The operation was a buffalo meat operation, with no clear idea of what hunting really is. Check it out before you spend your money. Either way, you will love the #1!
 
I don't admire break open actions the same as I do falling or rolling block actions. That is why I'd prefer a Sharps or clone or Ruger.


But a Handirifle in 500 Smith seems like a good idea to me...although a lever in the same would be even better.

I'd still go 375


munk
 
The hunt will be in a free range situation. The herd has free reign of several hundred acres. That is why the Horses will be useful. It could be a long walk otherwise.

I don't know for sure, but it seems that other than knowing the animals are in a certain general area, it will somewhat simulate a real plains hunt. There could be several hundred yards of crawling involved.

let the exercise begin!

Not for this hunt, but the potential for longer shots in different situations in the future is part of the 375's appeal.

I agree Munk, the falling block is the rifle that really floats my boat.

3 hours 'till I find out if I get that 375.

Thanks for the pleasant conversation.

Tom
 
I have a #1..in .338 mag! :eek: after the ten years I've had it I realize I made an error as to the "blue finish,walnut stock" I'm a stainless and synthetic guy...go crawling in the mud too much! :D

But I love the damn thing...need to do something.
 
There are a lot of new finishes today that could be applied.

Do you remember all the blue and wood bolt's and doubles in AFrica of yesteryear?? They used those guns. Just because it is elegant is no reason it cannot take mud and dirt. You gotta say, 'oh well." and look at the marks like honor badges.

I guess you already know that, though. Get SS when you can, but don't sweat the true blue and walnut.



munk
 
Thanks guys.

This is as if I am entering a stage of life I did not expect to see.

I read about others doing this kind of stuff...

I have owned a few #1s before, long ago.

I am really living pretty much what I hoped for, when I started school 13+ years ago, when I started engraving. All the years of wondering if I ever would engrave professionally, then, wondering if I could keep at it, wondering if I could take care of my family...

Here I am, working at a respected company, as the engraving guy, and because of that, I can go hunt Bufffalo next fall. I can get things done to guns that I could never afford on my own.

Because of where I work... and where I work is due to God's grace, not letting me give up when I was depressed, when I thought I would never be good enough, or get recognition when I WAS good enough.

5 kids, A beautiful and loving wife, and the Smile of God upon me.

I am happy indeed!

I am no Job, no Abraham. I am a little, small, fearful man.

I am often ungrateful, and weak. Self centered. Even in buying this rifle...

God seems to delight in blessing little weasels like me.

All this writing and sentiment, because of a gun purchase?

Because I like Khukuri's?

The gun is just the trigger, the cherry on top, that assumes the sundae of blessing, that has been there all along. The tip of the iceberg. It can start quite a conversation.

This is my favorite place on the net.

Thanks all,

Tom
 
munk said:
There are a lot of new finishes today that could be applied.

Do you remember all the blue and wood bolt's and doubles in AFrica of yesteryear?? They used those guns. Just because it is elegant is no reason it cannot take mud and dirt. You gotta say, 'oh well." and look at the marks like honor badges.

I guess you already know that, though. Get SS when you can, but don't sweat the true blue and walnut.



munk
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I have a Ruger M77 MkII stainless in .223 which I like more (well I'd like to put a 1-in-9 twist bbl on it so I can shoot heavy bullets :D )

I have considered teflon for the .338.

What I'd like now is to par down my guns and get a stainless .308

Ah! who knows? :D

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I just thought:

When I said I go through the mud and such I mean I drag my rifle through the mud!! :eek: did this with the .223 a couple times....

I dunno if a blue and walnut gun could stand that.
 
Gee what a choice a Number one or Number 3? The number one definetily is more refined looking (A Brit friend owned a couple ),the Number Three more"agricultural" looking ( a Farming/Off Shore Skipper friend has a 45/70 )
.375 H&H or 45/70 -what can you afford - can you get both? (Oh yes).Round our way the 45/70 is used sort of close in and the .375 H&H was used for everything else.The .375 H&H got a bit expensive though but is very accurate an ex-SAS friend was head shooting goats with the H&H at quite good distances ( 100 - 300 yards ).Recoil wise I had no problem with each of the calibers...and what was hit stayed hit.Go with your heart and get the rifle that you really really want...
 
Thanks.

The 375 is on its way. should arrive in a day or two.

We had a number 1 in 9.3x74r come into the shop on Friday. That was kinda cool too!

next one should be a 30/06 though, if there is a next one. Lots of ammo sitting around in '06, nothing to shoot it through though!

There was also a #1 in .416 Rigby sitting on a bench this morning when I came in. All of a sudden, they are showing up all over the place!

Some of the guys got to "test" fire a 400-450 gibbs double rilfe on Friday. Loooong cases on that one! They all had grins a mile wide when they came back in!

I just recut the "George Gibbs" on each side of the receiver on that job. I'll try to get pics before it ships.

Tom
 
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