how come no torx wrenches?

Joe-Dirt · Jul 19, 2006

I wish they would start using triangle head screws. They seem like they would be real hard to strip.

Like this:

Psychopomp · Jul 19, 2006

Camillus supplies one with the Heat (and I assume the rest of the series). Irritating little thing, shaped like a hex key and hard to use. It works on all the handle screws but not the pivot screw.

Having a set of Torx drivers on hand isn't a bad idea these days since more and more things are using them.

petrosil · Jul 19, 2006

I got freebie from Kershaw when I was at the Blade Show last month. It came with 2 small torx bits and a phillips. I used it last week to take apart my Endura, polished up some of the Endura's innards and it opens smooth as silk now.

A big belated thanks to Kershaw!!

P.S. I also stopped by Spyderco's booth and they slipped me some pretty cool pins, especially the one of a miniature poliwog.

stevekt · Jul 20, 2006

I got the $5.97 Home Depot Torx screwdriver with the 4 bits/8 sizes. The thing is great, inexpensive and sturdy. Home Depot also has a no nonsense return/exchange policy in case something goes wrong. Buy 2 in case you have a bolt that needs to be held in place on one side and turned on the other. Also, remove the plastic insert inside the handle and you can easily fit all 4 bits in the storage handle. I have many knives that use Torx screws and this tool has been extremely useful.

Multi bit precision screwdriver. Item includes driver with spinning removable cap and 4 double sided bits. Torx® sizes: T4, T5, T6, T7, T8, T9, T10, T15. For precision engineering, electronics, and other applications. Non magnetic. Husky screwdrivers are guaranteed forever.

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Thomas W · Jul 20, 2006

A big belated thanks to Kershaw!!

Your most welcome Pertrosil.

peacefuljeffrey · Jul 20, 2006

My opinions:

- I hate riveted knives. I want to be able to open it up, clean it out, tighten it down.

- I prefer either Allen screws or Philips head screws to Torx -- for reasons of ubiquity.

- I prefer tip-down carry, but if the knife is small, like a Delica that stays closed very well, I have no problem with tip-up on the right knife.

Who knows why Spyderco does not make a product akin to the Benchmade Blue Box -- perhaps they figure that all of us already have a Blue Box, and wouldn't re-spend for a Spyderco version of the same thing. (We all do have a Blue Box, don't we? But we all would buy a Spyderco one, wouldn't we?)

-Jeffrey

peacefuljeffrey · Jul 20, 2006

stevekt said:
I got the $5.97 Home Depot Torx screwdriver with the 4 bits/8 sizes. ... Buy 2 in case you have a bolt that needs to be held in place on one side and turned on the other.

You mean like the Para Military.

Multi bit precision screwdriver. Item includes driver with spinning removable cap and 4 double sided bits. Torx® sizes: T4, T5, T6, T7, T8, T9, T10, T15. For precision engineering, electronics, and other applications. Non magnetic. Husky screwdrivers are guaranteed forever.

Seems cool. I'm ambivalent -- might go with Sears/Craftsman or the Husky...

Are those sizes small enough to do the tiny Torx screws on, say, a Benchmade Mini Griptilian? I don't know what size those screws are...

-Jeffrey

Bodieism · Jul 20, 2006

Midget said:
mine is the 83mm manix, for clarification.

but all the screws are definately t9's.

I was also reffering to the Mini Manix above. T9's will sort of fit on the torx screws of mine but a T8 goes in much deeper and seems to have a more secure grip. I wonder what made Spyderco decide to change sizes?

Edit:

Here is a picture of the one I got from Home Depot:

Somone posted it awhile back (can't remember who) but it helped me locate it a lot faster when I went to search for it.

Andy_L · Jul 20, 2006

nokia phones use T6 I think so should be easy to find, there are loads on the british ebay site

I do find it slightly annoying that I had to get two T8 screwdrivers for the UKPK and like the idea of using a T8 one side and T9 on the other
Torx screws are the way forward.
It's not like sebenzas that use silly non metric allan screws in their knives. I know it comes with a driver but I'd rather use my pro quality allan keys

zenheretic · Jul 20, 2006

peacefuljeffrey said:
Who knows why Spyderco does not make a product akin to the Benchmade Blue Box -- perhaps they figure that all of us already have a Blue Box, and wouldn't re-spend for a Spyderco version of the same thing. (We all do have a Blue Box, don't we? But we all would buy a Spyderco one, wouldn't we?)

-Jeffrey

I believe it has something to do with their "you void the warranty if you take it apart warranty". It tends to send mixed messages if they sell a tool box with all the tools necessary to take it apart yet void your warranty if you do so. That is the stance revealed on Spyderco.com forums when this subject came up. Believe it or not.

Seatbelts are good too, even if they wrinkle clothes.

GarageBoy · Jul 20, 2006

The blue box is a piece of crap btw.

jd_elam · Jul 20, 2006

I bought the small set at Home Depot, like the picture above, for about six bucks that has 8 sizes and stores the bits in the handle. It works well and was cheap.

peacefuljeffrey · Jul 20, 2006

zenheretic said:
I believe it has something to do with their "you void the warranty if you take it apart warranty". It tends to send mixed messages if they sell a tool box with all the tools necessary to take it apart yet void your warranty if you do so. That is the stance revealed on Spyderco.com forums when this subject came up. Believe it or not.

Coulda sworn that Kristi herself posted that with exceptions, a user having taken apart a screw-construction Spyderco knife will not have axiomatically voided the warranty (some discretion on Spyderco's part would have to come into play here); and that if a user cannot reassemble the knife, reassembly by Spyderco would be considered a repair, not a warranty issue.

-Jeffrey

peacefuljeffrey · Jul 20, 2006

GarageBoy said:
The blue box is a piece of crap btw.

Why do you feel that way?

It does fine by me, and it's nice and compact.

How much "better" would it need to be, and in what ways, in order to do the job it's supposed to do?

-Jeffrey

GarageBoy · Jul 22, 2006

The ones on mine..the shaft wouldnt lock into the handle and the steel they used was REAL soft. Twisted EASILY

Joe-Dirt · Jul 22, 2006

GarageBoy said:
The ones on mine..the shaft wouldnt lock into the handle and the steel they used was REAL soft. Twisted EASILY

I have twisted the steel on all torx wrenchse I have. I have Craftsman, Husky, and a few others. Maybe I'm just strong.

hardheart · Jul 22, 2006

I've had the same Husky tool pictured here for a few years now, works great for tinkering with my folders. I also have a full set of torx drivers and bits in my tool box. Just no security ones, only needed one bit, one time, waaaaay back. But you can get those at auto parts stores without much trouble anyway (real secure, huh).

I screwed up the Ti pocket clip on my Random Task not long after I got it. Turns out the screws for the clip were 'spline' drive, sort of like torx, only with more... splines, lol. I had to get the part # for the driver from Kershaw, then order the tool from the manufacturer. But the guy from the mfr was really cool and sent me one for free. Which was good, since the clip screws on that one particular knife was the only place I've ever seen that head used.

3Guardsmen · Jul 22, 2006

[Why doesn't Spyderco make something like BM's blue box?]
Spyderco makes knives, and makes them well. They also make sharpening systems, and make those well. Why should they invest (tooling, R&D, etc.) in making something that several other companies already make well (Benchmade NOT included)? That would take time away from their specialty, making and selling world class cutting instruments and sharpening systems.

Has anybody bothered to ask why Benchmade doesn't make and sell a sharpening system? Probably for the same reason I mentioned above.

GarageBoy is right on in my book. Those little blue boxes from BM are lousy! I don't think the bits are sufficiently hardened, as I have managed to twist/break several bits from 3 different BM blue boxes. I have since given up on them, and have gone with the Craftsman torx drivers from Sears.

[Should Spyderco include a torx tool?]
I don't think a manufacturer is obligated to include a special tool to change a clip from tip-up to tip-down, but Spyderco really should! Not only does it assist with customer satisfaction, but by not including it, Spyderco is indirectly giving business to their competitor (Benchmade-blue box).

Regards,
3G

Joe-Dirt · Jul 22, 2006

3Guardsmen said:
...Has anybody bothered to ask why Benchmade doesn't make and sell a sharpening system?....

Because the Lansky, Edge-Pro, and Sharpmaker do just fine.

Personally I would rather go get my own Torx drivers. I don't need a "kit" like the blue box.

3Guardsmen · Jul 22, 2006

peacefuljeffrey said:
Coulda sworn that Kristi herself posted that with exceptions, a user having taken apart a screw-construction Spyderco knife will not have axiomatically voided the warranty (some discretion on Spyderco's part would have to come into play here); and that if a user cannot reassemble the knife, reassembly by Spyderco would be considered a repair, not a warranty issue.

-Jeffrey

Kristi stated that the Endura 4 & Delica 4 were the exceptions to the rule. Probably because their ad copy states that they can be taken apart for cleaning purposes.

Regards,
3G