How do you like them drops?

Gehazi said:
i would never train with mine unless i wanted to end my stay on this earth-- you guys got lots of moxy swinging those death machines around
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That's because you have the cleverness...I, alas, do not.
I wouldn't either but I've been at it a looooooong time- ideally my smacking myself days are over...
 
Few hours with a Sensei to learn the basics is a good investment. You learn to do the right things as safely as possible.
 
hey just because im a lazy desk camper doesnt mean you should be!!!- i think its cooool, i just am too scared to ever attempt it, i feel like i got a loaded gun when I handle a sharpened knife, just because of the pictures bill posted about people totally ripping themselves by accident;

I still think its cool , nay the way I want it, that the items I collect have real value to people who would actually use them, not only as art of the steel but functional art
 
They say you only live 3 or7 or 9 times, I can never remember. I plan to toss some Khukri this weekend. I just gotta know if I can throw em. If I'm absent for a few days you know it didn't go well.

I don't think a person needs a Sensei to learn safety. Just find an old man and try to absorb some common sense off from him.
Shocking as it may seem they used to teach common sense in school. I know unbelievable, I only caught the very tail end of it in grammar school. I think it was about the same time they invented 911 and told everyone to comply.
 
Bawanna said:
They say you only live 3 or7 or 9 times, I can never remember. I plan to toss some Khukri this weekend. I just gotta know if I can throw em. If I'm absent for a few days you know it didn't go well.

I don't think a person needs a Sensei to learn safety. Just find an old man and try to absorb some common sense off from him.
Shocking as it may seem they used to teach common sense in school. I know unbelievable, I only caught the very tail end of it in grammar school. I think it was about the same time they invented 911 and told everyone to comply.
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Some French guy once said that common sense isn't as common. Don't know his name because I didn't pay attention when they taught common sense in school. Didn't even know until now, that a class like that existed.
Good luck with the throwing. Keeping fingers crossed that you stay save and the Kukris undamaged.
 
Bawanna said:
I don't think a person needs a Sensei to learn safety. Just find an old man and try to absorb some common sense off from him.
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I don't want to be flagged as argumentative again, but I strongly believe someone needs more than common sense to swing safely a long blade at full speed.

The safety part doesn't take too long to get I agree... But the doing right part is another story. Learning by yourself is not advised if you want to be good at it.
 
The first thing I was told ( almost 25 years ago) about edged weapon combatives was "don't cut yourself".
Gehazi- make a trainer. Go to wallyworld, or your local equivalent, and buy a white poly cutting board big enough to trace your chosen blade out on.
Cut profile, file and sand smooth ( no sharp angles in the profile- they serve as stress risers and it'll break there)
Wrap grip and voila, $12 trainer. Not the same weight but much safer, and good for controlled drills with a partner.
It's what i make for my students.image.jpg
 
that is pretty smart really, how do you get it to weigh the same? just make it out of wood and add some lead weights?
 
Seems like it'd be pretty easy to drill holes in strategic locations and glue some lead weights in there, might create stress points though.
 
JW I really like your suggestion!

Bawanna, for your throwing experiment. The one thing most throwing blades have in common is a full tang handle.
I don't know what kind of Kuk you plan to use but get the one you like the least or the one with the strongest handle :-)
Chances are that you will damage/break the handle and/or crook the tip. (in this order)
 
The denser woods- kamagong, cocobolo etc. can be pretty close weight wise. You can drill it out and fiddle the weight and balance with lead, too. I don't weight trainers since I use them with partners- no sense denting anyone's head. The problem with light trainers is when folks think they can go live and still be that fast, and that's just something you have to remind yourself of. When you're chopping, or doing outdoor work with the live blade ya get a feel for the speed and mass involved.
Phil- some poly you can drill, some it creates a weak point. Never tried with the cutting board stuff.
 
Gehazi said:
that is pretty smart really, how do you get it to weigh the same? just make it out of wood and add some lead weights?
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Just make the wooden blade thicker than the metal template.
Traing katanas are like 4 times thicker than the real thing.
 
As far as drop goes-i was chopping ice out of the horse trough yesterday (about 10" thick on the sides) and the Gelbu was turning in my grip a little at the end of the cut( mostly because the ice was shearing out in arcs- i don't think it would have been as pronounced in wood) . Is it more extreme with the heavy khukuri with a lot of drop, I wonder? It is a pretty effective lever.
My hanshee weighs about 11oz so it's not a good indicator).
 
1. Hanshe is way over on the weapon side of the weapon-tool spectrum. You can chop with it, of course, but it would chop best if an enemy is using the wood as a shield.

2. For training purposes, I suggest buying an inexpensive KLVUK and grinding the edge completely off. You'll have the correct weight, balance and shape for practice. You can still hurt yourself, but it won't cut off a limb. Better yet, buy the cheapest KLO (Khukuri-Like Object) you can find and grind the edge off that to make it a practice weapon.
 
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Thats how my 25" Siru reminds me it time to take a break. I get tired and dont realize im relaxing my grip a bit too much and feel it turning at the end of the strike. I doesnt have much drop but is quite a lever. I listen to my steel! Probably less of a concern in a knife fight. If your in a knife fight for five hours somethin aint right:eek:
J W Bensinger said:
As far as drop goes-i was chopping ice out of the horse trough yesterday (about 10" thick on the sides) and the Gelbu was turning in my grip a little at the end of the cut( mostly because the ice was shearing out in arcs- i don't think it would have been as pronounced in wood) . Is it more extreme with the heavy khukuri with a lot of drop, I wonder? It is a pretty effective lever.
My hanshee weighs about 11oz so it's not a good indicator).
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J W Bensinger said:
As far as drop goes-i was chopping ice out of the horse trough yesterday (about 10" thick on the sides) and the Gelbu was turning in my grip a little at the end of the cut( mostly because the ice was shearing out in arcs- i don't think it would have been as pronounced in wood) . Is it more extreme with the heavy khukuri with a lot of drop, I wonder? It is a pretty effective lever.
My hanshee weighs about 11oz so it's not a good indicator).
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Indeed, a big drop on a long blade gives a nasty lever to turn in the hand. With good speed, the tip packs a lot of energy. When the blade deviates, that energy translates in torque in our hand.
 
ndoghouse said:
If your in a knife fight for five hours somethin aint right:eek:
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Something is wrong for sure, but if you are still alive after 5 hours, you must be doing something right.

See, there is always a good side to all situations :-)
 
Speaking of big drops...

In my limited experience with Kuks I found them annoying when reinserting them in the scabbard. Especially the V shaped ones because the tip tends to puncture the top of the scabbard.
 
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