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How do you react when this happens?
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Order a Minimalist from Alan Folts. One of the best neck knives ever.
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You know, I was on a school campus & a Asst. Principal made a big deal about my knife (An Emerson CQC7) & I had to laugh. The Emerson was a big deal to her, but the .45 (A Glock 21) on my hip wasn't. I usually just ignore them.
As to a neck knife, I like them. My favorites are all skeletonized handled (Cord wrap makes it more comfortable, though), but that Tops Feret doesn't look too bad. It reminds me of a Ranger Knives Little Bird. CRKT's Folts Minimalist is pretty nice, too. The blade steel isn't that great, but it works & is comfortable for a small FB (2" Wharncliffe blade & 5" OAL). However, Folts custom would fix the so-so blade steel issue.
As to a neck knife, I like them. My favorites are all skeletonized handled (Cord wrap makes it more comfortable, though), but that Tops Feret doesn't look too bad. It reminds me of a Ranger Knives Little Bird. CRKT's Folts Minimalist is pretty nice, too. The blade steel isn't that great, but it works & is comfortable for a small FB (2" Wharncliffe blade & 5" OAL). However, Folts custom would fix the so-so blade steel issue.
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I generally ask them why they see everything as a weapon. And then say something smart@$$ed about how messed up in the head they must be to be thinking about hurting people with various tools.
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Bad idea IMHO. A SAK is the first thing NKPs come to mind, if they tell you, what to carry instead of that "daedly weapon" you have at the moment.
In that way a SAK is a NKK an Non-Knife-Knife.
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i really like this because i try to always turn it back to the real problem - THEM. i've normally just shook my head and acted like they were being silly bordering on mixed up.
as for converting them, i don't. i remember what the old NDN in "The Last of The Mohicans" said - don't try to uderstand them and don't try to make them understand you because they are a breed apart and make no sense.
I find the best way is to do it by degrees.
In my case, I'm never outside without the good old Spyderco Ladybug on my keychain, it's been there for over a decade now. That's the one I let people see first. It's small and has filework on the blade spine, and looks kinda cute.
If all goes well, I graduate them to a Delica sized folder. Not quite a big knife, but certainly bigger than the Ladybug. Interestingly enough, I get very little reaction out of a Delica, while similarly sized Native gets "the look". Probably because it's spear-point and has thumb-rest with teeth on it.
From there on out, big boys can come into play, such as Police and Military. Police seems to work better. For one, the word "Police" clearly stamped on the blade clashes with the "Good lord, that's a murder weapon!" line of thought. And some people, after they see what a Police can do to a cardboard box, they want to try it themselves.
Oddly enough, serrations seem to play a big part in this. I don't know if it's because of the stuff on TV, like Law and Order or CSI or what have you, but people tend to have a worse reaction to a serrated blade. I once had a person look at a plain edge Civilian and say "Oh, how cute!" and then a minute later recoil in horror from a serrated Civilian.
As you may have noticed, I'm sticking pretty much to Spyderco knives. I find their knives in general are just bursting with raw creativity and there's so much variety. One day I'd be carrying a Delica, and next day a Captain, and just the shape alone provokes enough curiosity for people to come check out. Cricket is another good one to transition from Ladybug to Delica with, just because of its unusual shape and handle that doesn't exactly scream "Weapon!"
Of course this approach doesn't work on everyone. Some people are too blind or just plain pig-headed to see common sense.
In my case, I'm never outside without the good old Spyderco Ladybug on my keychain, it's been there for over a decade now. That's the one I let people see first. It's small and has filework on the blade spine, and looks kinda cute.
If all goes well, I graduate them to a Delica sized folder. Not quite a big knife, but certainly bigger than the Ladybug. Interestingly enough, I get very little reaction out of a Delica, while similarly sized Native gets "the look". Probably because it's spear-point and has thumb-rest with teeth on it.
From there on out, big boys can come into play, such as Police and Military. Police seems to work better. For one, the word "Police" clearly stamped on the blade clashes with the "Good lord, that's a murder weapon!" line of thought. And some people, after they see what a Police can do to a cardboard box, they want to try it themselves.
Oddly enough, serrations seem to play a big part in this. I don't know if it's because of the stuff on TV, like Law and Order or CSI or what have you, but people tend to have a worse reaction to a serrated blade. I once had a person look at a plain edge Civilian and say "Oh, how cute!" and then a minute later recoil in horror from a serrated Civilian.
As you may have noticed, I'm sticking pretty much to Spyderco knives. I find their knives in general are just bursting with raw creativity and there's so much variety. One day I'd be carrying a Delica, and next day a Captain, and just the shape alone provokes enough curiosity for people to come check out. Cricket is another good one to transition from Ladybug to Delica with, just because of its unusual shape and handle that doesn't exactly scream "Weapon!"
Of course this approach doesn't work on everyone. Some people are too blind or just plain pig-headed to see common sense.
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I just wait until they need something cut. That's usually the end of it.
Threaten to stab them if they don't back off. Then wave the knife in their face.
Its should be a large urban camo coated tanto, and it should be done in a "family" restaurant chain, like Applebees.
Or you could be one of those pansies who tries to convert NKP by sensibly using your reasonably sized knife like one would use any other tool...but whats the fun in that!?!
I work in an office and usually carry a Leatherman Wave on my belt. Occasionally someone new will mention my "weapon". I point out that it is a tool, not a weapon and has come in quite handy when our Maintenance dept. was too busy to help. I then casually pull the pen that I carry in my shirt pocket out and tell them that I can do much more damage with that than a set of pliers... I then laugh and walk away. I find that most people either agree with my logic or beginning avoiding me. Either way I win.
And I too have been searching for a neck knife. The Izula is at the top of my list.
And I too have been searching for a neck knife. The Izula is at the top of my list.
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Scenario 1:
NKP: Ahh! Why in the world do you have that weapon?!?
Me: Wait... You only use knives to stab people?!? What's wrong with you?!?
Scenario 2:
NKP: Why do you carry a knife?
Me: Do you ever use knives?
NKP: Of course.
Me: What for?
NKP: Food in the kitchen and stuff.
Me: Oh, so you use knives to cut stuff?
NKP: Yeah.
Me: So it seems like you know what knives are used for, why are you asking for instructions?
Scenario 3:
NKP: Why in the world are you carrying a knife?
Me: Does it bother you?
NKP: Yes.
Me: What about it bothers you?
NKP: It seems kinda weird that you'd be carrying around a weapon.
Me: (refer back to either S1 or S2)
As long as someone is willing to speak rationally with you, getting to the root of the fear by asking simple questions almost always shows the person how their fears are completely unwarranted.
The ESEE Izula seems to get a lot of good reviews. You might look there.
NKP: Ahh! Why in the world do you have that weapon?!?
Me: Wait... You only use knives to stab people?!? What's wrong with you?!?
Scenario 2:
NKP: Why do you carry a knife?
Me: Do you ever use knives?
NKP: Of course.
Me: What for?
NKP: Food in the kitchen and stuff.
Me: Oh, so you use knives to cut stuff?
NKP: Yeah.
Me: So it seems like you know what knives are used for, why are you asking for instructions?
Scenario 3:
NKP: Why in the world are you carrying a knife?
Me: Does it bother you?
NKP: Yes.
Me: What about it bothers you?
NKP: It seems kinda weird that you'd be carrying around a weapon.
Me: (refer back to either S1 or S2)
As long as someone is willing to speak rationally with you, getting to the root of the fear by asking simple questions almost always shows the person how their fears are completely unwarranted.
The ESEE Izula seems to get a lot of good reviews. You might look there.
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"If someone does not like a 12 inch pocket knife what does that say about them?A good knife can save the day when you need one for a task.A pocket knife don't leave home without it.Pass that knife around and they will be running to Walmart asking for a Navaja.A Navaja yells now that's a knife.
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My Izula is in my knife drawer - searching for it never takes long!
As for dealing with NKPs who freak out over a knife I have - never happens! I have 3 knives on me every day but around NKPs I would almost always use my SAK and where possible just use the smaller blade - no one ever gets freaked out by that. It cuts boxes or clamshell packaging open just fine. I also have a Leatherman Wave - it gives me a choice of a locking serrated blade or a locking plain edge blade, very handy at times. The 3rd knife is a locking folder and I don't tend to get that one out in front of other people (unless I know that they are KPs).
I also think that it is funny that people that have a 8" blade length carving knife in their kitchen drawer (where their kids could get at it) get bothered by a 3" blade folder that someone has in their pocket.
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I live in a rural area and packing about any clipped folder or holstered knife is a common sight.
I walked into the gas station with my XM-24 and talked to the new Township Police Officer last night, said hello and kind of introducing myself. If he noticed it, he never said a word. He seems like another cool local cop and even told his canine partner to SHUT UP in some unintelligible command outside when the dog started acting up because I was standing next to the cruiser (I think?).
I like to know all of our township Policemen and let them know who I am, where we live and let them see our vehicles. You never know when you might need help or a break on some minor infraction.
I walked into the gas station with my XM-24 and talked to the new Township Police Officer last night, said hello and kind of introducing myself. If he noticed it, he never said a word. He seems like another cool local cop and even told his canine partner to SHUT UP in some unintelligible command outside when the dog started acting up because I was standing next to the cruiser (I think?).
I like to know all of our township Policemen and let them know who I am, where we live and let them see our vehicles. You never know when you might need help or a break on some minor infraction.
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I like these responses. Think I'm gonna steal em!
Also, +1 on the Izula. Great little knife, but I must admit I don't carry mine around as an EDC since I stick to folders for EDC.
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