It's all been done before, there are so many patterns and models that have evolved, inspired from, copied whatever. Some maker's are just more classy about it and acknowledge the inspiration. I have both Randalls and Blackjacks...the former have symmetrical grinds and history, the latter cut better out of the box and have a nicer finish at half the price. Room for all. If you don't buy any copies you may just end up with only that 20k Scagel....James