How good are you at sharpening your knives?

I was lucky when I started carrying around a knife. My Dad sharpened my Montgomery Wards BSA style knife for me once and made me study every move. I had access to the "stones" any time I wanted them, an old Norton of unknown origin and grit, and two different Arkansas stones. He would provide me all the instruction I needed if I asked, but refused to sharpen my knife for me. I worked hard a as a kiddo for a couple of years until I could get a reasonable edge.

Somewhere, sometime in the mid 60s I found dear old Dad was not using the most efficient method of sharpening a knife. I saw a card that came with a CASE or BUCK knife that was a "care and sharpening of your knife" pamphlet, and it was totally different than my Dad's method. It instructed to cut into the stone as if one were cutting a very thin slice off the top of the stone. Later I found something like this (just the first two or three pages) as a leaflet on sharpening:

http://www.buckknives.com/pdf/WEBKnifeSharpeningDocument.pdf

Everything changed. No more dragging the knife edge across the stone, no more swirling motion on a stone, no more folkloric methods passed around as instruction around a campfire. At about 10, my knives were sharper than any of the adults I was around except my Dad. (They had fallen prey to folklore as well!) After using my Boker stockman themselves after trying out my edge, a couple of my scoutmasters even had me sharpen up their knives!

The only knife shape that proved to be too much for me was a saber edge. Using stones was easy on my CASE knives as the large blades all had a small hollow grind on them, and equally easy were my Boker knives that had thin blades to begin with. The saber grinds had such obtuse angles on them I could never get enough metal off the blades to get a thin edge.

Bought a Lansky, and wasn't real happy. Operator error. It sat in the drawer for a couple of years. I ran into an article that was something like "getting the most out of your sharpening gear" in a magazine and found that I was using the Lansky incorrectly. Worse, I was skipping grits thinking I would get a better edge. Followed the instructions in the article, and then no traditional was safe again, regardless of factory grind. I found the joy of setting an accurate bevel I liked, then the ease of keeping it once it was set. A few swipes on the stone and I was back in business. With an accurate bevel, it even made sense to strop!

The Lansky even fixed this one:



The knife was given to me by an older fella that told me it wasn't a good knife, wouldn't hold and edge, and couldn't be sharpened. It had sat so long in a dirty drawer with no use it was nearly rusted shut. When we were talking about it, he told me that likewise, it was given to him for all the reasons he explained to me. This knife is about a '69 model, and with 2 owners had spent almost all of its time in a drawer because the owners couldn't sharpen it!

The grind is steeply obtuse as the main blade is about 1/2" at the kick, and an 1/8" thick! That means with its sabre grind it went from 1/8" to the cutting edge in about 1/4". Really steep...

Reprofiled and ground, it is now a favorite work knife for the Fall/Winter seasons with its carbon blades.

I use different devices for different blades, and can get my knives as sharp as I want. I would suggest to anyone that they remember that knife sharpening is a skill, and a skill that takes practice. But once you "get it", oh boy.....! Your enjoyment of your knives goes through the roof! Carrying knives daily for over 50 years, I never tire of pulling out a really sharp knife to use for any task, however menial. And better yet, once you get the hang of it you won't be thinking of how hard a knife design or profile might be to sharpen, you will only consider whether you want it or not!

Robert
 
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I shave with a custom straight razor and cook in the kitchen with custom knives, knowing how to freehand sharpen, IMO, is a valuable skill. ALL of my knives have my edge on them. I prefer Shaptons and CBN on leather strop. But if you don't enjoy spending your time sharpening, I see no reason to stop buying more knives.

Kris
 
Another freehanded sharpener here as well.
I use diamond stones and a leather strop.
An old man told me once that I could sharpen a knife "sharp enough to cut the stink off s*&t".
 
I've acquired all kinds of sharpening gizmos & equipment, some with training wheels and motors, over years mostly because I have a keen interest in the practice of sharpening not that I can't sharpen. Some I really like and some not so much, but I still freehand on stones & strops more than anything else particularly when it comes to traditionals. I keep a small stone & strop in my pocket or in my bag daily and often put them to use like when I am on an extended phone call in the office with someone that is extremely abrasive. It's a stress reliever as well as a maintenance ritual for me. More knives means more opportunity to hone (last pun I promise) your sharpening skills so I see no reason why you should hold off collecting more knives.
 
Alot of you seem to like the DMT stones.
I picked some of their standard polka-dot stones up as a kit a couple of years ago on sale. Coarse, Medium, and Fine (blue, red, green) in a wooden box. They seem to be pretty good for the money, though mine seem to have some areas that don't have much diamond left on them so I don't know quite how durable they will be.

I already had a Spyderco Sharpmaker but found out that, like others mentioned, it's more of a "Sharpkeeper" once you already have the knife edge at something close to either 40 or 30 degrees. Using the stock stones, it takes a lot of time on the gray medium stones to change the angle if it's not already at one of those two presets. So what I do is use the DMT coarse and medium hones to get the initial bevel set, and then move to the Sharpmaker for refinement and polishing, and then on to a leather belt with some green compound for stropping.

Trick I found was to ignore the DVD that came with the Sharpmaker which recommends alternating strokes, and sharpen on one side only until you raise a burr, then work on the other side only until you raise the burr on the other side, before moving to the next set of stones. I don't really keep count that much, but you do need to pay some attention to the edge as you are working along to make sure you aren't doing like 60 strokes on one side and only 10 on the other, mainly to keep the bevels even and the edge centered.

The set of DMT diamond hones ended up being cheaper than getting the diamond sticks for the Sharpmaker at the time I bought them, and they give me greater flexibility. However, you may still prefer the value of the Sharpmaker for keeping the angle steady for you and so the diamond sticks might be a better answer.

I used the trick of marking the edge with a black sharpie and then checking where the sharpie was being removed, to gauge whether I was sharpening or just setting a back-bevel. It's really not that hard to learn to free-hand, you just have to spend a little time thinking about the blade edge and what you are doing to it with the stones.
 
Alot of you seem to like the DMT stones.

DMT Diafolds and Fallkniven combo stones are my usual gear, but for touch ups, I've used pocket diamond rods (like Smiths/Buck/Gerber) for over 20 years.

Fallkniven DC4 Combo
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DC3, DC521 and DC4 (size comparison)
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I have free hand sharpened a lot longer than I've used a guided system. Free hand is a skill that takes time to master and once mastered is a source of pride. I think I got lazy and started using the ceramic V rods and they are nice for touch ups.
Now I've started using the KME Sharpening System, now for me a guided system is the only way. It's more consistent than I could ever be free hand.
Free hand is a nice skill but if you just want a sharp knife a guided system is the way to go.
 
Natural Arkansas Noviculite. A seat in the shade of the back porch. And something to use my Beerlow on. And patience!
 
The Fallkniven DC3 & DC4 are my most used pocket stones along with a small strop. I like the DMT products too, particularly the XXC for reprofiling. I keep a DMT Diafold in my hunting pack and I think the DMT Aligner is one of the best budget guided systems. The Spyderco ceramic stones are excellent too.
 
The Fallkniven DC3 & DC4 are my most used pocket stones along with a small strop. I like the DMT products too, particularly the XXC for reprofiling. I keep a DMT Diafold in my hunting pack and I think the DMT Aligner is one of the best budget guided systems. The Spyderco ceramic stones are excellent too.

Those XC and XXC DMT's are great for that job! :thumbup: I also keep a F/C Diafold handy to refurb used/abused knives!
 
I think this thread has veered far enough from the original poster's question to need moving. I'm exercising my prerogative as an old moderator dude and moving it to Maintenance. Happy sharpening!
 
I sharpen and reprofile 100% freehand. My edges may not look perfect, and the angle is not always the same on both sides: however they're absolutely sharp.

The trick is to always make sure your bevels meet. They are friends, they must meet!
 
Just good enough if I slip with the sharpening stone I start leaking the red stuff. I really try to avoid doing that!
 
I'm pretty good at freehand. I can get a very workable edge from a very dull knife. I need to since I go innawoods quite a bit. Of course the key is to strop as long as you can and never let your blade get too dull.

Of course, can I get mine to be as beautiful as what you see on the edge pro systems? heck no. But my $10 stone will get mine to be hair shaving sharp
 
How good? Good enough that other people want me to sharpen their knives.
 
As I continue to look at more knives to buy, today I asked myself, what's the point of buying more knives if I don't have a true sense of sharpening them? To be honest, I get buy on my sharp maker and I'm happy with it, but do I really get the most out of sharpening? The answer for me is no and I have alot to learn. So does it make sense to drop alot of money on more and more knives if one isn't truly proficient in sharpening them?

It makes perfect sense to buy more knives, just not any ones that are of personal value to you. Practice on the cheap ones you continue to buy, and spare your treasured ones until you have enough skill to maintain them all. Have confidence, this is a skill right up there with starting a fire with a bow drill - challenging, but at one time it would have been strange for an average person to be unable, and so it is with sharpening tools. If you are an average individual, you can learn. You get a fire once, and you'll only get better and faster with practice, same with sharpening your tools. This isn't to say we will all be superstars, but good enough is good enough, and way better than a goose egg.
 
There are so many methods of sharpening a knife it can get confusing to someone new to the task. I've observed some folks sharpening their knives with an Arkansas stone or diamond stone and watching them do it stands my teeth on edge because their method looks so wrong. And yet, when they finish, they've got a surprisingly sharp knife that does everything they want it to do. I get my knives pretty much scary sharp with an augmented Sharpmaker and leather strop. Other methods work better for other people. It sometimes requires experimentation to find what suits you best.
 
Just like the old saying goes, "There is more than one way to get your knife sharp enough to skin a cat" or something like that. No offense cat people.
 
I do okay. I have a Lansky system, but seldom use it. I like to use my large Diafold DMT stones for most things and I use a Norton India stone for most of the carbon steel stuff. I usually touch up my edge with a really fine grit DMT when I feel the knife is where I want it.

Occasionally I strop them, but not often.

I have been sharpening knives since I was a kid and that has been a while ago.
 
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