Hey guys. i recently completed a trade with a gentleman from Canada. We agreed to ship at the same time since our feedback was equal. Communication was great to and fro. We were supposed to ship a week ago this past friday. It became easier for me to ship wednesday instead, so i informed him of this, and of course he was fine with me shipping first then he would ship friday. I shipped sent a customs number then friday i hear nothing. i write him over the weekend, and get no response, then monday he writes and says my messages were going to spam and the weekend was hectic, but he would ship monday afternoon. well needless to say i have wrote him several times since then, being way too nice in my opinion and have heard nothing. When should i become really concerned? should i give it til the end of this coming week, or should i go ahead and inform the mods? My package according to the customs form is in canada but tracking stops once it crosses the border. I won't mention a name until i am sure he is scamming me, but what do you guys think?
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I'd go with end of the week-end, most times it's very hard for me to get to a post office till that coming Saturday, and if it isn't sent by then there's obviously a problem.
Be nice, give it this week. Definitely don't pretend to be cool with it n spring the mods on em
Be nice, give it this week. Definitely don't pretend to be cool with it n spring the mods on em
Most members are honest, post office service in Canada is horrible. I don't know about shipping to the US but from the States 3 weeks is fairly normal. If a guy has good feedback he probably deserves it and has made no attempt at scamming anyone.
I agree his communication is just terrible, i will be fine if he would just let me know whats up. just kinda odd the whole time we were working out a deal he got every message, then after i shipped he is suddenly not getting them of they are going to spam
By starting a thread, you've pretty much informed the world not just us. Shipping from Canada to the US can take anywhere from 7-14 days. I've bought lots of stuff from Canada and that is the standard time frame. Different country, different carriers, different policies, etc.
Without knowing specifics I will say this:
You are still well within the normal timeframe before you need to start worrying. While I can truly understand concern, it is of vital importance that you not make a complete pest of yourself by carpet bombing people with emails that ring of distrust and worry. It's annoying and can easily drive people away from wanting to deal with you in the future. There should be an element of trust, if a member is not capable of recognizing what it means on their own, they should not be engaging in transactions. One final thing to note, some folks are extremely busy with work, family, and other issues, they don't check email every hour on the hour, 7 days a week. Wen I take time off my job, I try and unplug completely. Be patient and give it time.
Without knowing specifics I will say this:
You are still well within the normal timeframe before you need to start worrying. While I can truly understand concern, it is of vital importance that you not make a complete pest of yourself by carpet bombing people with emails that ring of distrust and worry. It's annoying and can easily drive people away from wanting to deal with you in the future. There should be an element of trust, if a member is not capable of recognizing what it means on their own, they should not be engaging in transactions. One final thing to note, some folks are extremely busy with work, family, and other issues, they don't check email every hour on the hour, 7 days a week. Wen I take time off my job, I try and unplug completely. Be patient and give it time.
I agree with Rev. to a point BUT if you can't communicate for the next week or two, let the guy know before hand. I feel that you have a responsibility to either communicate until the other party is happy (deal is done) or explain why you can't temporarily and get back to them ASAP. Would I be worried? Not really. Would I deal with them again? Nope. Instead of starting a thread, next time take their name down and refuse to deal with them in the future.
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My last shipment from Canada took 2 months to come in. Go figure. But it's a stonethrow between the neighbor up north and you.
Have patience and get the tracking number.
I'm still waiting for my blade from Italy. That was a month ago.
Have patience and get the tracking number.
I'm still waiting for my blade from Italy. That was a month ago.
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RevDevil: The needed 'element of trust' dissolves the moment you spend :30 seconds confirming promised delivery.
Appropriate selling and trading are a responsibility, which starts and usually ends with quick communication.
Anyone who is quick on the keyboard to make a sale, then is lax regarding tracking and promised delivery is simply negligent. He's waffled twice now.
I'd be concerned in his position. Not necessarily alarmed, but concerned.
(Can you tell? I despise ANYTHING but proper transactions between members.)
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Appropriate selling and trading are a responsibility, which starts and usually ends with quick communication.
Anyone who is quick on the keyboard to make a sale, then is lax regarding tracking and promised delivery is simply negligent. He's waffled twice now.
I'd be concerned in his position. Not necessarily alarmed, but concerned.
(Can you tell? I despise ANYTHING but proper transactions between members.)
Coop
RevDevil: The needed 'element of trust' dissolves the moment you spend :30 seconds confirming promised delivery.
Appropriate selling and trading are a responsibility, which starts and usually ends with quick communication.
Anyone who is quick on the keyboard to make a sale, then is lax regarding tracking and promised delivery is simply negligent. He's waffled twice now.
I'd be concerned in his position. Not necessarily alarmed, but concerned.
(Can you tell? I despise ANYTHING but proper transactions between members.)
Coop
This i agree with. I have given the guy the benefit of the doubt, and really questioned even starting the thread but when i can see he has been on the forums a couple of times since i have very politely tried to reach out and get some info from him, then i think my concern is validated. I know that not everyone, including myself, gets on here or the computer everyday to check these things, nor do i expect anyone too, but when i can see you have been on, and you still ignore me, do i still need to just sit quietly and act like thats ok? The amount of time it takes to ship is not my problem at all, i have had dealings to canada before and yes it took weeks, my problem is his refusal to communicate, and should i worry based on that, not worry because it may take a while to receive my end
The type of shipping will have an effect on delivery times. I insist on paying more for shipping, including tracking, insurance and ask the seller which shipping has worked best in their experience. The cheap route often takes longer and more risky. Shipping out of the states to my location in Canada averages 10 days for most deliveries. I ask for USPS with tracking and insurance to the boarder and then it goes Canada post. Usually the weak (slow) point of the route is when it has cleared customs and then crawls its way through the Canada Post system. Typically it takes 3 days to go from an American seller to the boarder and clear customs, then it takes between 3 days to a week for Canada Post to deliver to the point of pick up.
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This has me concerned, right here. If he'd just answer you with shipping info, this thread wouldn't be here.
BINGO! Communication is key, period. If you have time to make the deal then make the time to communicate.
RevDevil: The needed 'element of trust' dissolves the moment you spend :30 seconds confirming promised delivery.
Appropriate selling and trading are a responsibility, which starts and usually ends with quick communication.
Anyone who is quick on the keyboard to make a sale, then is lax regarding tracking and promised delivery is simply negligent. He's waffled twice now.
I'd be concerned in his position. Not necessarily alarmed, but concerned.
(Can you tell? I despise ANYTHING but proper transactions between members.)
Coop
RevDevil: The needed 'element of trust' dissolves the moment you spend :30 seconds confirming promised delivery.
Appropriate selling and trading are a responsibility, which starts and usually ends with quick communication.
Anyone who is quick on the keyboard to make a sale, then is lax regarding tracking and promised delivery is simply negligent. He's waffled twice now.
I'd be concerned in his position. Not necessarily alarmed, but concerned.
(Can you tell? I despise ANYTHING but proper transactions between members.)
Coop
I understand coop. But if every member were required to conduct a transaction the way we do, this sub forum might look like a ghost town. Some folks aren't all that quick to make a sale, they post things and then walk away for days on end. How do I know this? Because I've gotten hundreds and hundreds of emails and PMs from folks asking all manner of questions from what is the proper method for "X", to how long should I wait before blowing the horn of theft, to is this a fair deal.
I'm not discounting what concerns steve has, just offering the averaged advice when situations like this arise. Handling situations like this for a while, taking into account both sides of the deal, and trying to facilitate things between parties has given some degree of insight. Ufortunately, there is simply no "one size fits all" solution like this. There is no doubt of the importance on clean and clear communication during a transaction, it's often the details of why a person over or under does it that get overlooked. Which can lead to additional problems for all involved. Steve, send the other party a link to this thread.
Just my 2¥
I am fixing to send him the link now. Again I understand there is life outside of this forum, and of a trade deal. I showed that to this other individual when he was unable to ship the day he said he would because some other things came up. To that i am completely sympathetic. I really didn't want to be worried nor bothered by the lack of communication, but i was simply wondering if i was just in feeling so. Thanks guys!
I am unsure how it works once it is in Canada, but you could possibly still stop delivery. I'd say once you send him the link to this thread, and you see he has logged on but not responded, I would try and stop delivery.
I am not sure how valuable the item your sending is, but I would do it just in case on any item over $50.
I am not sure how valuable the item your sending is, but I would do it just in case on any item over $50.
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Rev: I hear ya. If I was in your shoes, I'd also walk the middle line. But.... I'm not. Hence my rant. 
Off topic: I work for a large rowing club with MANY athletes and I fix the equipment. it gets broken all the time, often from their neglect.
I've long since stopped ranting about this. It's human nature. Another coach is always railing about the negligence. He's angry all the time. I wouldn't sleep at night if I took it too seriously. So I shrug.
Like you did.
Coop
Off topic: I work for a large rowing club with MANY athletes and I fix the equipment. it gets broken all the time, often from their neglect.
I've long since stopped ranting about this. It's human nature. Another coach is always railing about the negligence. He's angry all the time. I wouldn't sleep at night if I took it too seriously. So I shrug.
Like you did.
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