How Many Here Have Had Good Luck With Chinese / Pakistani, Etc. Knives ??

exracr said:
My Brother brought over all his knives for me to sharpen. He had 3 knock off buck style knives that said "Pakistan" on them. 3 hours trying to sharpen them... I gave up n told him to throw them dull POS's in the trash before he hurt himself with them.
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You should have used a file to sharpen them.
A file will sharpen those soft blades just fine. :)
They just won't hold that edge for long at all.
 
craytab said:
Well it is good you are honest about how you feel. However the facts are different. We know that a company like Kizer can produce some high quality knives. They just aren't junk. Like I said before, it is the maker or the company who decides the level of quality of their knives, not the country.
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It's not that kizer isn't good ( they very well may be good knives ) but they're not my style, and I'd rather that much money to go to an American company, ( China is on track to gain a good reputation in 15-20yrs , but I won't put the cart before the horse )
the issue really is a moot point though ,because kizer doesnt produce my style of knives.
 
Hickory n steel said:
It's not that kizer isn't good ( they very well may be good knives ) but they're not my style, and I'd rather that much money to go to an American company, ( China is on track to gain a good reputation in 15-20yrs , but I won't put the cart before the horse )
the issue really is a moot point though ,because kizer doesnt produce my style of knives.
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Not liking a design or looks of the knives or even having other reasons why you would rather support USA companies are certain valid reasons for not buying a Kizer. That said, it does not mean they make junk as you have said Chinese knives are. It is not a horse and cart issue. There are enough vetted and trusted members here who say Kizer is a good product. Many reviews. The quality is not the country, it is who is making the profit off the knives.
 
Hickory n steel said:
It's not that kizer isn't good ( they very well may be good knives ) but they're not my style, and I'd rather that much money to go to an American company, ( China is on track to gain a good reputation in 15-20yrs , but I won't put the cart before the horse )
the issue really is a moot point though ,because kizer doesnt produce my style of knives.
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Cart before the horse? "The first cut is the deepest" and my mini bodega slices just fine.
 
TimmyJ said:
Cart before the horse? "The first cut is the deepest" and my mini bodega slices just fine.
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It is hard for some people to separate these issues. I know several knife nuts here who's opinion I absolutely respect but who will not support buying a Chinese knife for one reason or the other. That is fine. I have absolutely no problem with valid personal reasons. The problem is when it comes to saying all Chinese knives are not good. It simply isn't true.
 
craytab said:
It is hard for some people to separate these issues. I know several knife nuts here who's opinion I absolutely respect but who will not support buying a Chinese knife for one reason or the other. That is fine. I have absolutely no problem with valid personal reasons. The problem is when it comes to saying all Chinese knives a not good. It simply isn't true.
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Let the product prove itself in an open market. The cream always rises........
 
craytab said:
Not liking a design or looks of the knives or even having other reasons why you would rather support USA companies are certain valid reasons for not buying a Kizer. That said, it does not mean they make junk as you have said Chinese knives are. It is not a horse and cart issue. There are enough vetted and trusted members here who say Kizer is a good product. Many reviews. The quality is not the country, it is who is making the profit off the knives.
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I don't think all Chinese knives are junk, I like rough rider knives.
I don't think that a knife that I can afford to trash is necessarily a junk knife either.
That being said , if I can buy an American made knife for the same money I probably always will .

So all I've really been saying ( However poor of a job that I've done ) is that kizer doesn't really interest me. and that I'd rather buy into the low cost high value side of Chinese knives.
For the most part from what I've seen, if an American knife costs the same as a Chinese knife it will probably be more my style( a plain vanilla knife lacking the popular modern features that I don't like ) there are probably knives I'm not aware of though.
 
Say Heah Guys and Gals, I bought a Frost Damascus Trophy, Their no longer made, but on a Forum, they did go up in price. The one damascus has blotchy spots on the damascus, It's Ok, But I wouldn't by them again.
 
Can't you improve these Chinese blades after getting them home?

Throw them in the oven to temper them, send them to get cryogenic frozen. (Try vibration stress relief). I'd imagine it wouldn't be too expensive to have another heat treatment done too?
 
For us Europeans most of your "budget" american folders (RAT I, Kersaws, Utilitac II, KaBar Dozier, Cold Steels, Spyderco Byrds and Tenacious line, etc.) tend to be twice the price you can get them for in the US, so we have to look elsewhere to fill that void.

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I've found that Chinese branded knives (Enlan, SRM, Ganzo, HARNDS, Omuda, CIMA, etc.) cover that role very well, whereas chinese made but rebranded (S&W, MTech, United, etc.) knives are all the same POS, unreliable, pot steel crap. I've had to go through dozens of both types to confirm that.

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They are just worlds apart, that's the truth. I also know China made doesn't equal crap when a nice company is behing the product, examples being my excellent Spyderco Resilience, Byrd Cara Cara 2, SOG Fielder and others.

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That's my eperience anyways.
 
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If China can build an aircraft carrier, nuclear warheads, guided missles, computers, and so forth.... they can certainly manufacture a good knife if they want to.
 
Years ago I bought a Chinese Gerber at the local Bass Pro shop for about $40. I believe it was the first Chinese knife I had ever owned. And it was total garbage. It became loose just from daily carry in my pocket--the blade rattled around and could not be tightened. I tossed it out and firmly believed all knives from China were worthless, even those imported by an established American cutlery company like Gerber.

It took me a long time to get over this attitude. Reading many of the posts on these forums didn't help in that respect--there was a lot more animosity against Chinese knives at that time and a lot fewer people pointing out the fact that there were also good quality knives coming out of China.

At some point I bought a Spyderco Byrd hawkbill knife for a project. I needed that type of knife and didn't want to spend a lot and didn't care if it fell apart in the process of using it. It was cheap, sharp and held up to the task very well. Eventually, I bought a couple of the Taylor Schrade Old Timer slip joints and a Rough Rider or two. They were cheap but they were not garbage. In fact they were darn good for the low price. Later on I bought a few Elans, SanRenMus, Ganzos, etc. Not only were they impressively well made for the price, they would have been impressive had they cost 3-4 times as much. They certainly didn't fall apart in my pocket like that POS Chinese Gerber that cost more than any of them.

Other than that first Chinese Gerber, I've had excellent experiences with various brands of Chinese-made cutlery. There's obviously still garbage knives out there but there's also quality knives as well.
 
The only difference is china is still a communist country and supporting their government keeps the thumb down on their people who don't deserve than any more than we would.
 
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