How old are you guys?
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Here you go this way you don't have to search for it.
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When I saw the thread about the Lynn Griffith's "Patrolman" pop up I
decided not to comment immediately and e-mailed
MD 2020 and asked if he would overnight the knife to me.
I've been interested in taking a look at Lynn's knives for some time but haven't had the
chance to since he doesn't do any of the shows that i attend.
I've always found Lynn's relentless self promotion annoying but also believed
he was sincerely trying to make a good knife.
Far too many things are posted to the forums by people that have never even
held the knife that they are either recommending or tearing apart.
I just received the package and upon opening it I liked the look of what I
saw. I've always liked and collected small utility knives.
The first thing i noticed and liked was that the scales were well fitted
and tight to the handle. The tang and scales felt even to the touch. One
scale is ever so slightly thinner than the other which is bothersome to me
but not unusual on a lot of knives. Unfortunately that's where the good points ended.
Looking at the blade just past the scales the plunge cut is uneven. It is deeper on one
side and undercut. The cuts are also on different angles on each side of the
blade and go all the way to the top of the knife. At this point is where
the blade should have been discarded. And most knifemakers would have done
so. It's not only that it looks bad, it's a serious weakness in
the blade.
The serrations as mentioned in a previous post are a failed experiment and
do nothing but waste a good portion of the cutting edge. The hand rubbed
finish on the blade is not well done.
I can see why the bead blasted finish is standard.
The kydex sheath is, well, a kydex sheath.
Why this is called a tactical knife is something i don't understand.
I suppose you can put a butter knife in a kydex sheath and call it tactical
and sell it since nobody actually knows what tactical means anyway.
Small utility knife or something like bird and trout would be more
appropriate. There is not enough heft to the handle to be able to get a good
hold on it for any hard use. I wouldn't recommend stabbing anything hard
with it because you'd more likely hurt yourself than what you stabbed.
If a tactical knife is a knife like the military would use for
defense/fighting I'll call this knife tactical when the navy seals start
fighting with a paring knife. If a tactical knife is a knife made for killing or
inflicting injury, going by statistics it's kitchen knives that most
people are killed or assaulted with, then tactical it sure is.
The knife is much more suitable for battling it out with a tomato than a
human. Of course if it was called a tomato knife it couldn't possible fetch
the price that it does. It just comes down to marketing. People can be sold anything.
To sum it up the Patrolman is a good design for a bird and trout type
utility knife. The overall workmanship is only fair and poor in places with a major problem with the way the blade is ground. If you're looking for a knife for defense
keep looking. There are much better knives for the purpose. For value I find
the knife extremely over priced. There are much better knives of better
quality that can be be easily found for less money.
As i already mentioned, call it tactical, add some endless self promotion
and people will buy anything. The proof of that sits right here on the desk in
front of me.
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When I saw the thread about the Lynn Griffith's "Patrolman" pop up I
decided not to comment immediately and e-mailed
MD 2020 and asked if he would overnight the knife to me.
I've been interested in taking a look at Lynn's knives for some time but haven't had the
chance to since he doesn't do any of the shows that i attend.
I've always found Lynn's relentless self promotion annoying but also believed
he was sincerely trying to make a good knife.
Far too many things are posted to the forums by people that have never even
held the knife that they are either recommending or tearing apart.
I just received the package and upon opening it I liked the look of what I
saw. I've always liked and collected small utility knives.
The first thing i noticed and liked was that the scales were well fitted
and tight to the handle. The tang and scales felt even to the touch. One
scale is ever so slightly thinner than the other which is bothersome to me
but not unusual on a lot of knives. Unfortunately that's where the good points ended.
Looking at the blade just past the scales the plunge cut is uneven. It is deeper on one
side and undercut. The cuts are also on different angles on each side of the
blade and go all the way to the top of the knife. At this point is where
the blade should have been discarded. And most knifemakers would have done
so. It's not only that it looks bad, it's a serious weakness in
the blade.
The serrations as mentioned in a previous post are a failed experiment and
do nothing but waste a good portion of the cutting edge. The hand rubbed
finish on the blade is not well done.
I can see why the bead blasted finish is standard.
The kydex sheath is, well, a kydex sheath.
Why this is called a tactical knife is something i don't understand.
I suppose you can put a butter knife in a kydex sheath and call it tactical
and sell it since nobody actually knows what tactical means anyway.
Small utility knife or something like bird and trout would be more
appropriate. There is not enough heft to the handle to be able to get a good
hold on it for any hard use. I wouldn't recommend stabbing anything hard
with it because you'd more likely hurt yourself than what you stabbed.
If a tactical knife is a knife like the military would use for
defense/fighting I'll call this knife tactical when the navy seals start
fighting with a paring knife. If a tactical knife is a knife made for killing or
inflicting injury, going by statistics it's kitchen knives that most
people are killed or assaulted with, then tactical it sure is.
The knife is much more suitable for battling it out with a tomato than a
human. Of course if it was called a tomato knife it couldn't possible fetch
the price that it does. It just comes down to marketing. People can be sold anything.
To sum it up the Patrolman is a good design for a bird and trout type
utility knife. The overall workmanship is only fair and poor in places with a major problem with the way the blade is ground. If you're looking for a knife for defense
keep looking. There are much better knives for the purpose. For value I find
the knife extremely over priced. There are much better knives of better
quality that can be be easily found for less money.
As i already mentioned, call it tactical, add some endless self promotion
and people will buy anything. The proof of that sits right here on the desk in
front of me.
HermanKnives
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dave,
48......and you?
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48......and you?
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Cliff Stamp
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Dave, while I can appreciate your viewpoint and motives, this line of questioning is not likely to be productive. If you want to carry it out it is best to do so in person. For a net solution a private email has a much better chance at success than a public post.
-Cliff
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