How sharp should a new knife be?

How sharp should a new knife be when it arrives at your door?

  • Razor sharp

    Votes: 1 100.0%
  • Sharp edge, but could use some touching up

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Farmer's Working Edge: it'll cut rope with some effort

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dull as a dog's hind leg

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    1
Originally posted by Full Tang Clan
"Pass the shaving cream, I have to shave some stubble." if it's made by Spyderco.

If it's made by Benchmade, "I'm having trouble cutting the butter here."

Oooh, cheap shot at Benchmade! Actually, I do like Benchmade knives in all other respects.

There was a time when this was true. Thankfully the last three Benchmade I have bought (A BM705CFHSBC[forum knife], an axis AFCK and a 921 switchback) were all very, very sharp. The newest (the 921) has a very thin, razor sharp edge from BM, as sharp as any Sebenza that has left CRK!!!

Whereas BM was once using edges in the 50-60 degree range, they have cut this in half. The edges that I have seen on the new BM are as good as any production knife made, and a far sight better than many customs.

As for what I expect, like Owen, I want it ground properly, which means a thin edge. I can fix a little wire edge, realign the edge a little, 2 minutes on a 204 and done. Reprofiling a knife takes serious time on a sharpmaker.
 
Every knife I've bought in the last 3 yrs for myself has been razor sharp out of box... but they've all been Spyderco.

I've tried CRKT, and the BearClaw was a working edge out of box.

ColdSteel has a NeverSharp edge... those POS <i>serrations</i>...

I adjust all knives I handle anyways. I just toss a 30 on them, and if it needs a 40(ie aus6), I'll put it back down. Normally I keep it. Convex grinds on Spydies are murder to fingers. I redid my Dragonfly in ats-55 with a convex... lets just say ouch-damn-fu&#99k that's sharp!
 
I have received a couple of mail order "big-brand" knives in the past, which weren't sharp. One had an edge that was dinged in several spots. Looked like it had been struck on something. harpened up no problems. The other actually had no edge bevel. Looks like somone forgot something ! Mind you these were mass produced knives.

I've actually had very little problem otherwise. All CRKT, Cold Steel, Spyderco, Ontario, Camillus, Benchmade, Gerber knives came either "ripping" sharp or shaving sharp. Mind you, I generally buy knives that I lay hands on to test at the shop before I purchase. And the shop guys are knife nerds as well. One storeman is also a novice knifemaker and sharpens everything he stocks !

I think its one thing to get a knife from a factory that churns out hundreds of similar knives at a time, its another to get a blunt knife from a custom maker. The individual attention MUST make a difference. Otherwise, whats the point ?

Others have already pointed out that equally important as the edge is the bevel angle. I generally use a 20degree angle on most knives. On my heavier knives, instead of a thicker grind, I do a convex or Moran edge. On very small knives, it can have a "zero edge" which may have a wider bevel that heads directly into the edge with no edge bevel step. Difficult to do, but very effective in the cut.

Actually, it took me a long time to learn how to sharpen properly. I can always bring an edge back to shaving sharp on my hand tools, but I can tell you it took plenty of experimentation and practise. many users nowadays have no idea how to sharpen a knife. Therefore, the knife should come sharp first, then worry about sharpening later !

Cheers. I really enjoy the breadth of comments on this forum.
 
Originally posted by Eric_Draven
...Whereas BM was once using edges in the 50-60 degree range, they have cut this in half. The edges that I have seen on the new BM are as good as any production knife made, and a far sight better than many customs...

That's good to hear. To be honest, I haven't purchased any Benchmades for a couple of years (when I was bitten by the Spyderco bug). Nice to know BM is taking care in detailed workmanship again. :)
 
When I think of knives that come from the factory razor sharp, two names come to mind--Spyderco and Marbles.
 
When I was pulling my Kershaw out of the package for the first time, I forgot that it was open and nicked my thumb that was holding the package. :rolleyes: A reminder that, hey, this knife is razor sharp!
 
A new knife ought to come sharpened to it's full potential. It ought to work right out of the box.
 
I just got a custom -- waited months and months.

Definitely NOT impressed, and dull as hell.

After two days -- and literally HOURS with my worn-out Sharpmaker diamonds, it's sharp. And I like it.

An awful lot of work for a high-dollar custom knife though.

This $100 BM921 puts it to shame!

:eek:

Mike
 
A working knife isn't designed to pop hairs...it's designed to work and hold an edge. If I wanted a hair popper..I'd buy a razor. In my personal experience, a knife that doesn't pop hairs stays sharp longer than one that does..

Regards,
Steve
 
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