How to act at a real knife show

It's been mentioned before but can't be stressed enough. It's rude to interrupt when makers are talking business with a customer.

And, No swinging swords in the aisles!
 
I've been to a few, including Blade West a couple times. Most knifemakers, dealers and manuf. reps I've met there have been awesome people. I've never really felt the need to dicker on a price, the only time I've done that is if my friend and I wanted to buy a couple knives from one table, and we get the price down to a nice round number. Usually if you're really eyballing a blade, the maker will cut you some slack right on the spot. That's usually enough to push me over my spending limit because you end up getting MORE! Always prepare to spend more than you brought, that's rule #1! Rule #2 in my book is to ask before touching, that's just plain old courtesy. Have fun!
 
Ira,
I'll be there at 12-B as always. Come by and chat. I don't care if you buy or not, just like to meet you. If you do see anything you like, go ahead and pick it up!

A fine knife is like a fine woman, you can't fall in love without a litle touching. ;) :D

Steve
 
There are some very good points made on this thread. Just to speak to a few from a maker's perspective, I always encourage people to handle my blades. The feel and balance are important parts of what I do, but I also appreciate being asked if I fail to tell someone to go ahead and pick it up. It's just mannerly to do so, IMO. But it's much better to handle a knife, than to not experience what it has to offer. I'd NEVER buy a knife without handling it first.

If you don't get talked to right away, it might be because these things are pretty distracting for makers as well as attendees and we aren't always payng attention. I've not knowingly ignored anyone, but there have been times when I've been yanked out of a daydream about that new grinder across the room by someone who needs an answer. As for who I should or shouldn't be talking to, I haven't a clue. You really can't spot a buyer in a crowd in my experience, so if someone is there being quiet and polite while nonbuyers are pushing and shoving, the wrong people sometime get attention and the right people don't. It's definitely not disinterest or gender profiling that's making that happen. Personally I find ladies enjoyable to talk to. Always have, now that I think on it.

On the price thing, almost all knifemakers are a little insecure. Most artists are I guess. There is just no way for us to judge our own work or have some ironclad rule for setting prices. We can't know whether the price on a knife is too high or too low; I've been told both and was told by a number of people lately I'm too low, even when one of those persons bought the knife. Nobody has ever offered to pay more, that's for sure. I can honestly say this though, I don't know any rich knifemakers, and most of us make a pretty marginal living. While you are buying a possession, we are buying groceries with the proceeds. I always appreciate someone not asking for a price break, especially when a couple months later, as now, our washing machine breaks and I gave away almost the price of a new one at my last show.

Now, about Phillip's last point... PLEASE don't swing ANY knife in the aisle, especially at Blade. The aisles are packed, and I almost witnessed a serious catastrophe a couple years ago when someone was swinging one of my swords around in the middle of a crowd. All knives, but especially big knives, can do tremendous damage even with a light hit.

Mostly though, enjoy the show. You'll meet the nicest and friendliest people I've ever known, and you'll never get tired of the experience.

Ira, see you there buddy...
 
Great replies here. I would just add that I don't personally mind my knives being picked up without asking, as it's something that I expect a potential customer to end up doing. It is a polite gesture though.
Please do not wipe knives down without asking. I know people mean well, and most use clean cloths, but we'd rather not have our knives wiped on dirty canvas work overalls or similar items. I've had it happen, and I'm sure I was visibly cringing the entire time.

Brett
 
On the haggle thing; the way I look at it is this. Would a buyer be offended if a knifemaker asked him a couple hundred bucks extra just because he looked well heeled? Of course he would. It works the same the other direction, just because a maker looks like he's starving to death making knives doesn't mean he will discount his work

very good reponse Mr Williams

Often I have thought, when getting a lower than the regular price offer, that I should ask the guy for a tip!!! :)

PS-If you know me......I am not about to starve!!!! :rolleyes:
 
And Chuck, I will see you again in Marlboro. That show is the ONLY knife show I have ever attended and I really enjoyed it. I hope to be able to go before BLADE, but it does not look like it, but I will see you in Atlanta.

I promise not to interupt, be polite, bring lots of cash and plastic, be sober during the show hours (only) and have the time of my life!!!!;) :) :) :D Ira

I am like a little kid, I am so excited!!!!
 
I just want to set the record straight. I did not mean to imply that the knives that I will buy, I intend to at a reduced rate or that there is enough time to play car salesman. I learn more and more each day being here and would expect a Maker to be insulted if I offered a lowball price for a knife that I know from spending time here is absolutely stupid. I know how hard you guys work to make what you make. They are worth the money.

I am certainly going to be buying knives, that is a certain. but more importantly, this is going to be a learning experience for me as I grow as a knife collector. SH*T, there are so many great people that I have to meet, Beers that I have to buy, and hands that I must shake. Whatever I buy, whatever I do, whatever I say reflects on who I am as I will no longer have the cover of a computer to hide behind. It's time to meet all of you face to face and finally say hello. Man, the thought of Tom starving almost stopped me dead in my tracks!!!!!NAH:p :p ;)

BLADE is a brand new experience for me and something that I will remember for the rest of my life. The only thing I am disappointed about was hearing that swinging swords was out. Now the .45 I was gonna bring to trade will not work because I cannot crank a few holes in the roof to prove the thing works.................See ya in Atlanta!!!!
 
Ira,
About the kid stuff, I guess this will be my 11th or 12th blade show. I get more excited every year :).

Off to the store now for more "Depends".
 
Tom; It is easy to tell I don't miss many meals myself. Ira; I wasn't poking at you. Come by 5-P and we can swap lies about these other guys. mw
 
...to Dr. Doolittle, while the good Dr. was visiting the Brown farm...

"Don't choo be talkin' with them lyin' goats now!" ;)

Mel
 
My first order of business is stopping by and saying hello and meeting all you outstanding guys. Then, when things quiet down spending some time getting to know more about knives as I really am still quite the Newbie. For my first BLADE, my final item on my "to do" list is BUYING. I have a list of makers I will be buying from (if they have any knives left), and I want to spend some time with the lesser known makers and meet a few Dealers. I still have a thing for certain production knives, so what better place than Blade to get them. I figure I will spend $5,000, but my Wife says I have zero control and impulse buy so I expect to blow my budget. After all, I need to factor in the Bar Tabs and Bail Money.

But seriously, this being my first BLADE, I want to get to know those who are truly KNIFEKNUTS and better establish some friendships I hope will last my lifetime. I think this is why I am so excited.

And Tom, my wife is gonna ship you out some bread, Goat's milk, Emu eggs, a duck, and a Rabbit. Eat well and put some meat on that skinny body of yours, we really would hate to see you starve:rolleyes: :p ;) ;) ......................Oh ya, and Jerry, Can I fling empty beer cans at BLADE or is that a No NO also?.......Ira
 
I asked this before but no one took me seriously. I know from my days walking around gun shows that the "attire of the day" might not have made a difference to most, but I found some people very "concerned" when someone "grubby looking" started to talk about buying.

I put no value into clothing and wear only what is comfortable. Is there an 'unwritten" dress code, or some expectation of how a true knifeknut spending three days at a mega-event like BLADE 2002 should dress. After talking to Jerry, I did rent the tuxedo, but I am having a problem coming up with a ten-Gallon Hat and Ostrich shoes;)
 
HI Ira
I won't be going to the show .. I wish I could.

 But to you other guys, I have met Ira and think
he's a great guy.
I met him at the only show he went to in Mass.
interesting because I met him on the net first.
we had no idea ether would be there.
he had his son with him, he mite become a knife knut too.

being in law enforcement I think Ira already
has the stuff to get along with anyone and ejoy you too,
you'll enjoy the company..
   I haven't forgotten you Ira your on the list.
.have a good time
and drink one for me..I drink scotch..:D
 
The price is usually the price. For that price, you are not just getting a knife. You are also getting the maker !!

The secondary market is one thing. But, if you really want the knife, you also want a positive relationship with the maker.

If you really want the knife, and you are buying it from the maker, pay what he is asking for it.

My 2 cents
 
As far as clothes anything from a Tuxedo to a Tutu will work.
 
Just a copuple of fun thoughts: Knife makers can get high at shows from the questions and conversations that take place. I am a little hard of hearing and sometimes my answer to a question does not fit. Just laugh and ask again. Will be looking forward to meeting you sir! Also there is a sign on my table, if I remember to put it out, that says "Please Touch". You are welcome to pick up any of my knives at your discretion.
 
Ed Fowler said:
Knife makers can get high at shows from the questions and conversations that take place.
And I have to say that I enjoy (politely) eavesdropping on those conversations :)
I've learned alot just listening at the NY shows.

A very popular knifemaker was extolling the virtues of his knives to a well dressed businessman and ended with:
"...and after all that, it's just a knife."
Gotta love it.

Remember to take lots of pictures too!
 
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