How to grind a blade a bit?

Are you on a ladder, scaffolding, or in a hot air balloon??? Then why would you want your knife attached to you?
(Or on a boat or near a body of water... but I get that point.)

Honestly though, have you used pinky lanyards? I'm not talking about a lanyard that loops to your belt or something. I"m talking about a pinky lanyard. Changed my life when I started using them. Turns a 2.5" blade into a friggin machete (if you allow for a little poetic license).
 
Crag the Brewer Crag the Brewer chopping knives can benefit from lanyards, especially if they will be used at length. As long as they are used properly, and wrapped tightly around the back of the hand, rather than loosely dangled about the wrist (which is very dangerous).

J jayjaygee nothing turns a 2.5" blade into a machete. Hyperbole is fun but in this case doesn't really say anything useful. Care to explain in concrete terms what a pinky lanyard is by your definition, how you use it, and why you like it?
 
Crag the Brewer Crag the Brewer chopping knives can benefit from lanyards, especially if they will be used at length. As long as they are used properly, and wrapped tightly around the back of the hand, rather than loosely dangled about the wrist (which is very dangerous).
Well yes, for sure. That is a very different type of lanyard but I agree that the tight wrap wrist can be very useful on chopping knives when you want to do finer work.

Care to explain in concrete terms what a pinky lanyard is by your definition, how you use it, and why you like it?
Okay. What I mean by pinky lanyard is a lanyard that ties near the butt and is an inch or two long loop that you slip your pinky through, pinky threading in the direction toward the edge. It makes a two or three finger hold very very secure, secure enough to chop with, even with very small edges. Okay. What I mean by pinky lanyard is a lanyard that ties near the butt and is an inch or two long loop that you slip your pinky through, pinky threading in the direction toward the edge. It makes a two or three finger hold very very secure, secure enough to chop with, even with very small edges. So then not surprisingly I like it because it extends the usefulness of the blade. You could also say it allows you to pack more punch in a smaller size.
 
Crag the Brewer Crag the Brewer chopping knives can benefit from lanyards, especially if they will be used at length. As long as they are used properly, and wrapped tightly around the back of the hand, rather than loosely dangled about the wrist (which is very dangerous).

J jayjaygee nothing turns a 2.5" blade into a machete. Hyperbole is fun but in this case doesn't really say anything useful. Care to explain in concrete terms what a pinky lanyard is by your definition, how you use it, and why you like it?
And preferably lashed in front, over the hand rather than from behind.... but again. I haven't seen a need for it, maybe others do? I'm flexible on that.

But like you said loose is DANGEROUS..... I'd rather just let the blade go sailing away.
 
Well yes, for sure. That is a very different type of lanyard but I agree that the tight wrap wrist can be very useful on chopping knives when you want to do finer work.


Okay. What I mean by pinky lanyard is a lanyard that ties near the butt and is an inch or two long loop that you slip your pinky through, pinky threading in the direction toward the edge. It makes a two or three finger hold very very secure, secure enough to chop with, even with very small edges. Okay. What I mean by pinky lanyard is a lanyard that ties near the butt and is an inch or two long loop that you slip your pinky through, pinky threading in the direction toward the edge. It makes a two or three finger hold very very secure, secure enough to chop with, even with very small edges. So then not surprisingly I like it because it extends the usefulness of the blade. You could also say it allows you to pack more punch in a smaller size.
another problem with lanyards/fobs/etc is cleanliness.... Yuck that gets into the knots.

More trouble than they are worth.
 
And preferably lashed in front, over the hand rather than from behind.... but again. I haven't seen a need for it, maybe others do? I'm flexible on that.

But like you said loose is DANGEROUS..... I'd rather just let the blade go sailing away.
Yeah I don't use it a lot but if you have a 7-14" blade and you want to do fine work, holding it by the spine is how. And the lanyard makes that position safer, assuming you wrap it right. I think that means through the thumb and back over the hand. I don't really know, I just do it instinctively at this point.
 
another problem with lanyards/fobs/etc is cleanliness.... Yuck that gets into the knots.

More trouble than they are worth.
I haven't had that problem, but I wouldn't use a pinky lanyard on a skinning knife. They're mostly to make a 3 finger knife into a securely-gripped 3 finger knife. Or do a little chopping with a non-chopper. I have a Buck 722 folder. I don't usually use a pinky lanyard, because the point of that tool for me is it can get soaked in gunk from the shop. But when I tried it with a pinky lanyard for a day of bramble clearing... wow it was like I had a machete in my front pocket.
 
Yeah I don't use it a lot but if you have a 7-14" blade and you want to do fine work, holding it by the spine is how. And the lanyard makes that position safer, assuming you wrap it right. I think that means through the thumb and back over the hand. I don't really know, I just do it instinctively at this point.
Are you sliding your arm up though the lashing, so that you are pinch griping near the tip of the blade and your arm is over the long spine?

Like if you Had to skin an animal with a huge blade?

Ive seen videos of this before.

it's basically just holding the spine to your forearm, right?
 
I've used a high-speed rotary tool like a Dremel to put choils into blades before. Always worked well for me. Just be careful not to get the blade too hot.
How hot is the hot threashold before damage can occur? Do you use a temp gauge of some sort to monitor?
 
Are you sliding your arm up though the lashing, so that you are pinch griping near the tip of the blade and your arm is over the long spine?

Like if you Had to skin an animal with a huge blade?

Ive seen videos of this before.

it's basically just holding the spine to your forearm, right?
Yes, it's just holding the spine to your forearm, but with the lanyard wrapped tightly you don't have to put any energy into preventing it from falling onto your leg/foot/etc. But yes, you have the idea. It's great for a longer blade, like a proper chopper, when you want to do smaller things, maybe cook or slice butter. Yes if I had to dress an animal that is the grip I'd use, although it would be hard to slice up the gut from the groin to the sternum using a typical underhand stroke. I think I might have to straddle a deer facing the hindquarters and cut toward myself using the grip we are describing.
 
How hot is the hot threashold before damage can occur? Do you use a temp gauge of some sort to monitor?
I know you're not asking me but I think I can answer. Just keep a can of wd-40 or a water spray bottle and keep a steady stream of fluid to wash the heat away. At least that is what I do when I'm cutting metal. I just don't like the small dremel tools for this specific task I think.
 
Don’t let the anti-choilers intimidate you into giving up on your dream(I say that jokingly they’re actually cool). I put choils of various sizes on all the knives I make and often laugh maniacally while I’m doing it. For small sharpening choils I use a dremel with chainsaw sharpening stones and a carbide faced file guide. I use a soaking wet rag and grind a few seconds then cool to room temperature with the rag and grind a bit more, then soak etc… I check with my fingers to make sure it’s not hot to the point of discomfort before soaking also. Below are some of the various stones I use or have used, the largest is 5/8” diameter. Now, for larger finger choils I use the small wheels on my 2x72. I like to play with choil size and placement for functional reasons and for the fun of it.IMG_0206.jpeg
I put a long sweeping plunge on this knife and ran the end of the choil out to the meet the cutting edge thickness so there wasn’t actually any “wasted” cutting edge:
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Choil closeup from above:
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A couple knives with choils and lanyard tubes:
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Standard sharpening choil:
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Now, for larger finger choils I use the small wheels on my 2x72
Thanks! But I don't know what you mean. Could you explain that to a stupid person (me)?
put a long sweeping plunge on this knife a
That's precisely what I'm aiming to do. I ordered a 16mm diamond file, it was cheap and always good to have so if it doesn't work that's ok. But I'd like to know exactly how you accomplished this?
 
Thanks! But I don't know what you mean. Could you explain that to a stupid person (me)?

That's precisely what I'm aiming to do. I ordered a 16mm diamond file, it was cheap and always good to have so if it doesn't work that's ok. But I'd like to know exactly how you accomplished this?
I’m talking about a 2x72 belt sander like the one below. You can get an attachment with set of small ”wheels“ that come in various diameters to grind choils, fullers, finger grooves, etc. The sweeping plunge line was accomplished by running the belt off the side of the platen so it will create a natural sweeping radius in the plunge line. The farther you run the belt off the side of the platen, the more sweep you’ll get (to a point). The choil was created by using my 1/2“ wheel (I think) on the belt sander and cutting in to the depth I wanted then turning the edge into the straight belt as it was coming off the wheel. I’d think it would be fairly easy to accomplish the choil shape with a round file and flat file or just a half round file. I’d just file in the round/radius portion of the choil, then mark a tangent line at whatever angle looks good and file to it. Files are definitely less risky than power tools because you don’t have to worry about getting anything too hot a ruining the temper.
Just think everything through well and use a magic marker or something similar to lay out your lines before you do anything. Also tape off the blade so you don’t get any stray scratches. Don’t try to modify anything you’re not okay with ruining. It happens. I haven’t been making knives nearly as long as some of the others (I started in 22) who have commented on here and I’ve got a scrap bucket full of screw ups.
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It was easy with a diamond half round file. They are cheap on Amazon
Should take, maybe a half hour or less
Hey thanks again for this tip. The file finally arrived last week, the temperature finally went up enough to go out to the garage today. I now have two knives that are much more useful to me than they were. Image attached (assuming I'm doing it right)
 
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