How to not wear deoderant for the rest of your life...

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Diomedes Industries

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Okay - I know this one is odd too. But here goes.

I have not worn deodorant or antiperspirant for over five years. I am terrified of what is in modern deodorant (ground aluminum for instance has been linked to Alzheimers). Also, I want something natural for when I am in the woods.

Here is what I use. Go to a health food store or look on line. Get a 20 ounce spray bottle and mix this inside. All of these measurements are approximate.

16 ounces of Witch Hazel (Astringent)
20 drops of Tea Tree Oil (acts as an antibacterial)
20 drops of Cedar Oil (deodorant - also acts as an insect repellant)
20 drops of Pine Needle Oil (deoderant)
10 drops Lavender (Good for the skin - deodorant)
10 drops Rosemary (Good for the skin - deodorant)

Shake before each use - and spray twice under each arm. Then use a Salt Chrystal (again buy at a natural food store, on line, or at a Vitamin Shoppe) and give that a few swipes under each arm.

It takes a while to break in - but you will naturally rid your body of toxins and I promise you will not smell. By the way - this method lasts about 6 months or so. You will save money as well.

It is natural and in the woods when hunting I think it gives off less scent of modern man.

TF
 
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There is a store called LUSH in Vancouver and they make their own soaps and shampoos etc. They have a deodorant paste that works great and it is all natural.

It works better than anything I have tried. Also Weleda makes a rosemary mist that is awesome.
 
That sounds interesting. My wife uses the natural crystal deodourants, and an aluminium free one she found.

Do you know you are one post away from 1000?
 
I'm sure that smells, real nice - but most (higher-end) deodorants have very similar ingredients. And being all-natural is not necessarily a sign of being safe. Lavender, for instance, is cytotoxic at certain levels when applied to the skin.

I don't know what the salt crystal is supposed to do? If you could explain that a bit..

And I know for a fact that none of those ingredients will "cleanse your body of toxins." The human body has its own system for cleansing itself of toxins, and it works very effectively. This is not to say that we're all walking around with a load of toxins in our body - because if we were we'd be very sick.

And as for vitamin shops, I'd take everything they sell with a grain of salt. ;)

Sincerely,
Psycho Boy Anti-Homeopathy
 
Alum Rock- my wife and mother use it.
Also a lemon works better than any deodorant. It will clean your pits and use it for a few days and you won't stink even if you skip a day.
 
I go with daily applications of soap and hot water, applied with a repetitive linear or orbital motion and then rinsed.

I gotta respectfully agree with Psycho that oils or other elements applied to one's armpits do not remove supposed toxins from the body. JMO.
 
+1 to Tom's!

I tried the salt crystals for a bit as a pit stick. Sure it did'nt stink at all for days, but damn it was painfull to remove the reside when showering, that stuff sticks something fierce. left neat white marks on my black t's, that did'nt seem to go away until a few washes later.


i think the whole idea of the natural stuff removing toxins is based on the sweat pores in the pits NOT being blocked up like they get with commercial pitsticks. The body can expell sweat freely when the pores are not blocked
 
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Esav Benyamin said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_oil
Specifically: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_oil#Dangers

These are not weapons of mass destruction but should be understood before use. Talfuchre seems to have hit on a formula that works for him. With these oils, though, more is not better.
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There are reasons my professor won't let me cite Wikipedia in my essays. ;)

But I agree, they certainly should be understood. For what they are and what they are not. You're at a lot more risk from something you make yourself rather than something made by a large corporation like Procter and Gamble.
 
All right - here is the deal. The problem is that we are conflating deodorant (covers up smell) and anti-perspirant (stops sweating).

Alumimum does not allow the skin to sweat because it changes the charge of the skin's surface. No sweat, no wet surface for bacteria to grow. However, your underarms have bunches of glands near them. This allows easy uptake of a LOT of aluminum (over a lifetime) to get to your blood stream.

Salt simply kills bacteria - but allows you to sweat. Sweat is the releasing of water - but also the bodies toxins. All this natural system does is kills the stinky bacteria (while adding a few smell goods to the mix) - instead of pumping aluminum clorohydrates into the system.
If you read back at my post, not PSB's misquote - I NEVER said it would release toxins (although I probably was not clear). I was alluding to the fact that sweat does this and anti-persperants do not allow you to sweat.

PSB,

I don't think your appeal to authority (trust P and G) is any more valid than my anecdotal evidence. You will have to show me evidence that natural oils are more toxic in the levels I have mentioned here - than aluminum clorohydrates. Here is a study that wonders about links from it to breast cancer, for instance.


Furthermore, Esav wasn't publishing an article - he was just giving a reference. I, being a professor, don't allow my students to use Wiki - either - but Esav wasn't writing a paper.

TF
 
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I use Tom's of Maine. Works beautifully and you don't stink. I don't use antiperspirant and don't believe anyone else should either. You need to sweat to regulate your body temperature. I found that when I used to use antiperspirants, I would actually sweat more on my face and hands and got hot faster. Normally I am not a heavy sweater. Also, the aluminum salts in antiperspirants are probably not good for you (Alzheimers possibly). Plus they stain your shirts.

Just don't use Tom's if you like to take Irish Showers :)
 
Found this interesting article on tea tree oil and bacterial resistance:

Habituation to sub-lethal concentrations of tea tree oil (Melaleuca alternifolia) is associated with reduced susceptibility to antibiotics in human pathogens.

McMahon MA, Blair IS, Moore JE, McDowell DA.

RESULTS: All habituated cultures (exposed to sub-lethal concentrations of TTO) displayed reduced susceptibility to a range of clinically relevant antibiotics compared with non-habituated (control) cultures. CONCLUSIONS: Although TTO may be an effective antimicrobial agent when appropriately used at bactericidal concentrations, its application at sub-lethal concentrations may contribute to the development of antibiotic resistance in human pathogens.
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Crystal Rock ---WORD!

http://www.thecrystal.com/product.cfm/id/1/scid/a/submit_thumb/2

Available at Walgreens and CVS (in South Florida anyway).

I have been using it for almost 4 years ever since someone brought it up on a Bladeforums deodorant thread back then. The first roll-on I bought lasted about a year and a half with daily use. The second one is now going on exactly two years with daily use and I know because I marked the bottom of the second with a magic marker the day I started using it because I wanted to see how long it would go and wasn't sure if my memory was playing tricks on me. I figure with the amount left in the current one it will last three to four more months. I am not sure how the company stays in business since it lasts so long which is why I bought two more as spares in case they go under due to lack of sales from lasting so long.

Mo more stained clothes, sticky underarms or skin rashes. You will sweat some but it doesn't seem to stink. The stuff just plain works and I am a picky bastid.
Plus with the money you save on deodorant you can buy more knives.
 
How to not wear deoderant for the rest of your life...

aka, "How to repel the opposite sex for the rest of your life..."
 
spyderguy said:
I'm curious to know why it only lasts for a certain period of time. it doesn't work at all after said period of time?
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Uggh - I have been so unlcear. I meant to say that one bottle lasts about 6 months - and the crystal lasts about one year!

Spooky, I think the same is true for any antibacterial stuff - Lysol or Alcohol.

Shecky,

Here is my wife - proof that I don't stink that much!

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very cool..:thumbup: i might have to give it a try.... both my wife and I are very chemically sensitive.... just about all of our health/hygiene products, come from natural food stores... as does our food...:D
 
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