How will you survive a big one!

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Dantor

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I admit it, I think about it sometimes, if something really big/bad happens, globally, what will I do, and how will/could I make it.

Like later this month an asteroid could smash into Mars. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071221162707.htm
It was a 1/300 chance, then 1/75 now I've heard it's down to 1/25 percent chance it could hit the red planet.

They are saying it could be like the Tunguska event that happened in Siberia. Many reported saying they could see
flashes of light, with a decent telescope, when shoemaker-levy hit Jupiter, so with Mars being so much closer!!!

If that happened here, could I make it. I am trying to be ready for so many things, something like that would really be hard to prepare for. Long term stuff, water, food, shelter, war. It's one of the reasons I'm here in this forum, and some really good camping/hiking stuff/suggestions! :D
 
Long term survival, in an extinction event, would be near impossible without years of planning and millions of dollars. That said, noone has experienced it, so nonone really knows. Preparation for long term survival has to be very comprehensive, taking into account all parts to all things with multiple replacements per part, ie.a gasket on your generator, long term prep may mean 20 spares for just one gasket, thats the kind of money I am talking about for long term survival. This is a great place to get ideas and pick brains. read-read-read and read some more, there are great books out there that will keep you busy for a long time, again you also need to know how to replace the gasket mentioned above, therefor, read read read. Thanks, Jason.
 
Better yet is to learn how to make that gasket.

I dunno. My grandfather faced a huge upheaval when the depression hit. Some people did a swan dive off the roof of a high-rise. SOme had no choice to ask for the government to bail them out. And some people, like my grandfather and milions of others worldwide buckled down, rolled up their sleeves and went to work doing for themselves and trading with their neighbors.

And then my father and mother, having grown up just after the depression, found themselves dealing with war rationing. Things they could not live without, they either made or did without. Both generations learned to be creative and frugal.

I grew up in a time of relative plenty. And yet... I was the son and grandson of frugal people. I learned to grow things, make things and how to do without.

That, to me, is the secret to surviving economic turmoil.
 
Hard to say how things would go down. It would depend a lot on what kind of SHTF. I have a small farm where if left alone by outside forces, I would do fine. One thing is for sure, all you could do is use your head and do the best you can.
 
Of course if that meteor lands on your head all the planning in the world won't have helped you. ;) One can't prepare for everything so you try to prepare for the likely things. Some things are so far out of our control I personally don't fret about them.
 
I'm sorry, you'll all have to make your own tin foil hats. Directions will be posted shortly.

On a more serious note, economic downturns are the most likely event, IMHO. Even if some other major disaster occurs, it is the economic impact that will be most widespread. We, here in the States, are already tetering. The loonie in Canada is stronger than the greenback dollar? What is next? The Aussie roo? Maybe we should follow the EU "Euro" example and have the "Nads". North American dollars.

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I've got plenty of knives, my wife is a good cook. We're surrounded by liberals, but if you boil them long enough, they aren't too bad with enough barbeque sauce. We're set. :D ;)
 
Having a good sense of humor is probably your best chance of surviving near anything, except stuff that kills you.
 
Cmon the Aussie dollar, I need more knives on the cheap :) Sucks having to pay on average an extra $50 for US knives :/ and don't get me started on the postage :P
 
gruntstorm said:
Long term survival, in an extinction event, would be near impossible without years of planning and millions of dollars. That said, noone has experienced it, so nonone really knows. Preparation for long term survival has to be very comprehensive, taking into account all parts to all things with multiple replacements per part, ie.a gasket on your generator, long term prep may mean 20 spares for just one gasket, thats the kind of money I am talking about for long term survival. This is a great place to get ideas and pick brains. read-read-read and read some more, there are great books out there that will keep you busy for a long time, again you also need to know how to replace the gasket mentioned above, therefor, read read read. Thanks, Jason.
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I could not disagree more with this post. The super millionaire you're pointing to above has could maintain his present lifestyle until the first gasket went, or the fuel ran dry. Then he'd have not idea how to survive.

Long term survival means knowing how to revert back to a more primitive state, and sustain yourself at that level. That is the reason I learned to make knives, and furniture, so I have skills to trade if money becomes useless. I learned to grow food as a boy, and I've taken up archery, and learned to use traps so I can be better prepared to feed my family.

I also have goals to have a few standard animals on the property just in case. And grow a stand of grain for them to eat also.

I'll tell you, your rich boy runs out of gaskets and gets hungry and comes crawling down my gravel road, useless and soft, and looking for a free ride, and he's gonna get chased the hell outta there with a shotgun up his rump.
 
Long term survival in an extinction level event ?

I doubt anyone here would live longer than 4-5 months.

I doubt anyone would at all would live long , except for those chosen few living in some governments doomsday bunker , the rest of us are history.

Mind you , this is extinction level event , not a mere and wimpy ( by comparison ) economic depression, or plague, or war.

I've recommended Patriots by James Wesly Rawles before , it's a great story about surviving a worldwide depression followed by plague , reading a book as well thought out as this can give you an idea of the pre-event mindset and supplies you would need just for bare sustinence , which is why most humans will not make it , sorry.

I'm not saying I would not try , I'm not like my co-worker who would just curl up and die but seriously , unless you have been preparing for something like that for years and live apart from the leeches in the cities , you are going to die , probably defending your can of pineapple.

You all know how people are in big cities , imagine the sheer chaos in places like L.A. , or N.Y. , or Chicago, it would be pandemonium of levels we have not seen for centuries..
Imagine everything horrid man is capable of on mass scale , rape , loot , murder for useless riches , cannibilism....

Sounds dark and horrible huh ?

Let's all hope no meteor smashes into earth or something along those lines , lest we be screwed.
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Codger_64 said:
Better yet is to learn how to make that gasket.

I dunno. My grandfather faced a huge upheaval when the depression hit. Some people did a swan dive off the roof of a high-rise. SOme had no choice to ask for the government to bail them out. And some people, like my grandfather and milions of others worldwide buckled down, rolled up their sleeves and went to work doing for themselves and trading with their neighbors.

And then my father and mother, having grown up just after the depression, found themselves dealing with war rationing. Things they could not live without, they either made or did without. Both generations learned to be creative and frugal.

I grew up in a time of relative plenty. And yet... I was the son and grandson of frugal people. I learned to grow things, make things and how to do without.

That, to me, is the secret to surviving economic turmoil.
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My grandparents were so poor they didn't even notice the depression. :D






I think it depends on the circumstances. I live roughly about 2-3 miles outside of a city of about 45K-50K. Near my house they have two bridges I could raise and that'd make anyone coming over from there have to go over 15 miles around.


The other way they have a smaller town of a few thousand (not much there). But anyone from the larger city would have to go through the smaller one. Just about everyone has guns though, any looters would get taken out before they reached my house.
 
We as a family would pool resources and manpower, and heck, I would eat people in a quick minute if needed. Yes, I would TAKE what I needed to provide for my people by whatever means needed.
First order of business in something of that magnitude is snuff all the neighbors on my block and shore up my stocks and defenses.
5 households added from family, and 6 houseloads of asst. "stuff" from my recently departed neighbors.
Barricade the area, start gardening prep, arrange for housing animals (dogs, cats, coons, possums, etc.) for food.
Gather ALL surrounding wood (minus our 3 pecan trees IF they are still viable) which would be approx. 10-12 large heavy limbed hardwoods on my street alone.
In the group we have:
a med. student
master carpenter
2 welders/fabricators
2 nurses
1 comm. sign company owner (lots of materials to use)
and most are avid outdoorsmen with plenty of firepower & outdoor resources like stoves, lanterns, etc.

Scavenging, hunting (yes, people too if needed), gardening, and possibly bartering, etc. Just all the standard, run of the mill EOTWAWKI stuff.

Bottom line, we might not make it, but I ain't laying down for nothing. I have an unyielding obligation to pursue the most effective, logical means of survival for myself and my family until I cease to survive myself, period.
 
In a major crises such as mentioned, I would stay away from the cities as its going to be chaos, with alot of sickness and violence and probably very little food or any kind of supplies with all the people competing for what ever is left.

I would look for food by hunting and gathering in the country side, and if it mean't survival I would steal a pig or whatever I could find to eat and water from wells are less likely to be contaminated than surface water.
 
Keep in mind too , if it was something like a large enough cosmic body hitting our planet , none of you would want to live unless you were insane or as previously mentioned , in some deep, secret bunker.
Imagine total darkness for a year or more.
Life as we know it would be gone for the most part , once the dust gets into our atmosphere all plant life will die , followed by most animal and sea life , followed by the last stubborn humans. This is not even taking into account the vast tidal waves that will demolish our coastal cities.


Apocalypse is interesting to think about , living thru it thought is quite another matter.

None of us have years of food stockpiled , or water , or seeds or livestock , much less the group mentality of folks it would take to defend such from the roving mobs left over from such a catastrophe.

I'm not being a naysayer here , I just think that realistically most of us can kiss our asses goodbye if something really big happens in our lifetime.
 
There's lots of variation in what could happen with an asteroid-strike scenario... of course, a bigger rock is worse, but it's better for the world if it strikes land. (Not so great for the people living there, of course.) If it hits water, then you have megatons of water vaporized and pushed up into the atmosphere, not to mention the gunk from the seabed. You also have HUGE tsunami issues, etc. So, down side... big time death early on. Plus side... once a lot of people die off, there's more "stuff" left for the survivors. Good book about this by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle - Lucifer's Hammer. It's a bit dated now, but most of the concepts are still sound. "Footfall" also has an impact event in it, but as that was dropped on our heads by hostile aliens, the story has a different focus.
 
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