hrm, sharpening question..buck specific

Thats a great help. With both those sharpness tests, only the sharpness of the very edge matters. Arm hair and paper don't bind on the edge like thick cardboard or something, so the sharpening angle and the thickness of the blade and the type of grind can almost be ignored. I've heard of people getting hair whittling edges on blades sharpened at 27 degrees per side, which is approaching cold chisel and splitting wedge geometry, at least at the very edge. So now we know it's not the thickness of the blade just behind the edge bevel, nor the difference in grind between Case and Buck. It sounds like there must be some sort of burr clinging to the edge, assuming you're forming one. If not, then you probably just need some more time on the stones, followed by a dedicated deburring step, followed by some alternating honing at just a little above the original sharpening angle.

interesting, i do alot of cardboard cutting at work, i guess i sort of assumed if it could do the hair popping it would do just fine at the cardboard cutting
 
hrmm, the plot thickens
been trying out the 422 with the 442 blade that Siflyer sent me, i work in a warehouse and we cut a lot of pallet ties and cardboard and i must have grazed some ceramic tile. The tip was slightly blunted and the top part of the blade was dull. So i took out my little stone (no idea what it is...a little sharpening stone i found at an Ace hardware) and i do a little touch up.

after like 5 minutes the blade is now shaving arm hair like it was nothing. This is what i want from my buck 309. I wonder what the difference is...but i will keep trying, need to put a little more work on the stones i think...

just a quick update!
 
Use diamond stones, maybe? I find them much easier to use than natural stones, far less effort and noticeably better / faster results. Just a thought....
 
just because this thread needs more pics :D
these are the knives in question

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and i have been taking you folks's advice and i am much happier with my 309, not QUITE where i want it to be, but much closer :D
 
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