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Why is it that some people have no problem spending $100 on dinner, a few drinks, and a movie, but won't spend that same $100 on a GOOD knife that they'll be able to use and then pass on to their kin when they die?
 
glockman99 said:
Why is it that some people have no problem spending $100 on dinner, a few drinks, and a movie, but won't spend that same $100 on a GOOD knife that they'll be able to use and then pass on to their kin when they die?
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They know how good the food and drinks will taste (because they've had fine food before), and sometimes the movie is even good. But many simply have no idea why that 100.00 knife is better, and especially why it's a whole 90.00 better. If all you've ever had in a restaurant is bad food (or all you've ever had is a crap knife), you wouldn't be willing to pay so much again...
 
Dan....

I see it all the time.. For some reason Hunters are amung the worst...

They'll shoot Brownings, Bennelli, Beretta, some pretty fancy firearms,, but then they pull a Ruko POS out of their pockets or off their belts and ask me to build a sheath for it...

Why is that ???

ttyle

Eric...
 
Normark said:
They'll shoot Brownings, Bennelli, Beretta, some pretty fancy firearms,, but then they pull a Ruko POS out of their pockets or off their belts and ask me to build a sheath for it...

Why is that ???
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i think it's just from lack of knowledge, or care. some people buy their sunglasses from the swap meet (flea market) or 7-11, for $6. they're content with the amount of protection or shade they provide and don't mind buying 3-4 pairs a year as the pieces of crap fall apart on them. i personally spend quite a bit more, but my shades tend to last more than a couple years and are very solidly constructed.

granted, with knives, there exists the issue of safety, but i think most people are thinking in "6 dollar sunglasses mode", and don't understand that there is more to a knife than the factory cutting edge and the "cool looks".

abe
 
I use Nikon cameras. Some people use those one-use box cameras. Different strokes, interests and economies. That doesnt make any particular school of thought right or wrong.

Though accusing cheap knives of promoting crime is kinda out there......
 
Hey Sendec...

Putting these types of knives in gas stations, flea markets and such puts them potentially into the wrong hands.

I've done shows next to people selling these types of knives.. Yes,, for the most part,, they are average every day Joes.. Then there are the punks and kids that buy them.. The guy selling them could care less who he's selling to,, just that he's selling them...

These are the types of people I'm talking about,,not ordinary people who are cleaning their fingernails or trying to push cut it through an apple at lunch.

Doesn't anyone see where I'm trying to go with this..
I can't believe I'm hearing someone defend this $hit....

This is retarted..
I'm done with it...

ttyle

Eric...

sendec said:
Though accusing cheap knives of promoting crime is kinda out there......
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A buddy at work picked up a load of FC stuff for resale. It's his life - I won't give him a lecture about how to live it. I was curious, though, and he was in need of a sharpener. I traded an old diamond rod sharpener (Gerber I believe) that I'd found in a bilge some years ago and never used for one of his knives. After picking through nine or ten of them, I found a "Hummvee" folder with a functional lock.

It was butt ugly. First thing I did was to grind off that damnable etching on it. The second thing I did was to put a proper edge on it. I then put it to work. As I'm not in a line of work where my life depends on my knife, yet I'm very hard on them, I was curious to see how long it would last. I've broken some well known, well respected knives in under two weeks.

This piece of junk is going on four now. It cuts, it pokes, it breaks down ammo crates and the lock hasn't failed. The blade dulls more quickly than just about anything I've found but it's easy enough to resharpen, if inconveniant. It flexes alarmingly under heavy prying but has yet to break. One of the grip pads fell out under its first lock test; I put it back in with some superglue and it hasn't come loose since.

Honestly, it isn't that bad.

There are people in this world that don't cut 500 yards of cardboard or pry the doors off of cars with their folders every day. There really are people who use their knives once, twice, maybe three times a week. Burn me as a heretic for saying so but a Frost Cutlery ought to work just fine for them. It'll do the job and for these users, the increased quality of a better knife wouldn't be noticed. "An ass for every seat," as was so eloquently stated in another thread. (Or was it the other way around?)

For the rest of us...well, I'll get back to you in another four weeks. I haven't been able to break this one under normal useage yet.

As for those of us complaining that the low price and wide availability of these knives increases crime, let us remember that this same rationale is routinely used in the firearms arena, coupled with the term "Saturday Night Special" - namely, if a potential weapon is inexpensive, only criminals will buy them. (And by extension of this logic, only people with money ought to be armed.) I'm not a proponent of this philosophy.
 
Yes, but you picked through 9 or 10 of them before finding a functional lock. 9 out of 10 people who buy those knives choose the type they want, are handed a box, pay for it, and leave. Based on your experience, that means that those 9 out of 10 are getting sub-functional locks, i.e. serious injury time bombs.
 
selfinflicted said:
Yes, but you picked through 9 or 10 of them before finding a functional lock. 9 out of 10 people who buy those knives choose the type they want, are handed a box, pay for it, and leave. Based on your experience, that means that those 9 out of 10 are getting sub-functional locks, i.e. serious injury time bombs.
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9 out of 10 of them aren't going to beat the spine on the edge of a workbench before taking possession of it, either.
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glockman99 said:
Why is it that some people have no problem spending $100 on dinner, a few drinks, and a movie, but won't spend that same $100 on a GOOD knife that they'll be able to use and then pass on to their kin when they die?
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You know, I ask myself that question all the time, but in the opposite way. I went today to look at prices on longboard skateboards, found out that they range around 120-180 retail. It seemed like so much. Then when I got home I put the $150 AFCK next to my other $400 worth of knives and starting flipping the $150 balisong.

Sigh.
 
Like I said, I grew up using junk, like Jaguar and Frost, almost lost a couple fingers, and several years ago I decided to step up to name brands. Those name brands are now in the process of being sold on eBay, and I am moving higher up the knife ladder, I surmise that if I spend my disposable income wisely and don't get the hots for every knife I see displayed in Blade, I will be able to afford less expensive handmade pieces and high end production pieces. Until then, I will purchase what I can afford. Right now, I can afford a good 500 folder, but I would not use it, and it would probably be the only piece I purchase this year, I could afford more, but would be so bothered by purchasing such an expensive piece, that I wouldn't be able to even look at a knife catalog for a year :eek: . I learned the hard way, I wish someone would have told me to go for the good stuff, but no one did, my fahter had a few good pieces, and he always left those in his case, he used his junk instead. What all of the posters on this thread have to understand is that makers like Frost and Jaguar drive the industry, most people I have talked to that were buying the good stuff at fleamarkets were people just like me, uneducated in the world of knives and started out using Frost etc, almost got injured or worse, and then went onto to "better products". I don't buy Frost anymore for myself, I buy it for family members for their EDC, so that they don't become mortified when they lose their 15 piece, as opposed to posters who gripe about losing their 350 piece :p . I was in Walmart yesterday looking at their knives, looking for more Schrade deals, and was seriously thinking about a Buck stockman made in China, and decided against it. Why? Because it was made in China. What everyone on this board has to realize is that most of America, the suburban and urban areas, do not appreciate knives, and if they do, they cannot appreciate spending 30 bucks or more on a well made knife, I have gotten looks from people when they ask how much I paid for my SOG Trident, and I tell them 50 on eBay, they look like they've seen a ghost! If a person wants a piece of junk, let them buy it, if you argue with them and insult their intelligence, you'll just turn them away. I'm not saying you should let them injure themselves on a poorly made knife, but you can't babysit everyone!

I find it ludicrous that you think all crappo knives are used in crimes, yet you say they can't perform. :confused: C'mon, should we ban all Marlin rifles because they're sold at Wal Mart and people buy them at a discount at Walmart? I have personally stopped in a gas station in MD and bought MTech knives for the sole purpose of leaving them in my truck to open quarts of oil so that I wouldn't damage my good EDC! I really think that you should focus more on informing people, than condemning those who use junk knives. I learned my lesson the hard way, I think I needed to, but others might turn away your "helpful observations".

BTW, Frost sucks :D . It's the truth, but people buy it.
 
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