Hunter S Thompson dead at 67

I didn't mean to offend anyone, if I did I apolagize now.

I didn't know the man so I took time to read and talk to my wife who did.

I don't like what he said, wrote or stood for. There are so many noble and worthy people to eminate he was not one of them, and I think he is getting too much attention.

Just my thoughts. Other than that got any good khuks? ;)
 
Munk, I had to run to the store and on the way back I was thinking I'd have to add that the answers aren't permanent and keep changing. Then I got back to find you'd already pointed that very thing out.

If you stay honest with yourself and admit problems to others with more wisdom, it's nice to know they're pissed-off too that there aren't the answers they've been desperately seeking also!

Sams, don't worry about it. When you are imprisoned in your own head, and find a writer that speaks to you, that understands, it doesn't much matter if that writer is an SOB or an a***ole.

Winston Churchill said: " I am always willing to learn; I am not always ready to be taught. " Me too. It's like my grandpa used to scoop up the manure on his dairy farm and put it in a compost heap. Sometimes you gotta let the lessons others teach you kind of ferment a while before you can stand the benefits.
 
He made a great impression on me. I must've been 14 or 15 when I started reading him. I have "Campaign Trail '72" in hardcover. And "Las Vegas" was a revelation for me.
 
Rusty said:
Sams, don't worry about it. When you are imprisoned in your own head, and find a writer that speaks to you, that understands, it doesn't much matter if that writer is an SOB or an a***ole.
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This statement is SO true! A lot of times with authors, or saints, or sports figures, or WHOEVER we somehow idealize them and give them all these attributes they often didn't have.

For me at least there are a lot of people that inspired me or said something that really hit home for me, and I really respect them for it, but maybe in other ways they didn't have it together at all. In certain ways they help our lives along as long as we don't maybe emulate their self destructive behavior.

I remember Ram Dass saying he thought one of the reasons that he had a stroke was to teach people that even if you were some kind of guru or something that stuff still happens to you. That people had this picture that if they did all this stuff right nothing bad would ever happen to you.
 
Sams- you didn't offend me-
Not only can you say whatever you want here in HI, but it is particularly acceptable in a munk thread, whatever the hell that is. And on a completely biased note, I'm glad you spoke about Thompson the way you did. You see, I didn't want this to become a homage to the 'mystique' of the tragic genius figure who 'just has to take drugs' for some unknown existential reason. After the links posted I was afraid just that was happening.

I got a good one though: you read Thompson and you laugh. He's the complete outsider looking in. Well, what's the natural ending to this if it was a story? Right. He'd find a home. Did he?

That might be the tragedy.


munk
 
munk said:
Looks like the rifle pulls to the left. I'll have to dig up the sight adjustment tool.
munk
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Let me know if you can't find yours. I just found mine again yesterday and be glad to loan it to you. :D
 
He might well have been dying, like from cancer or something, and decided to punch out a tad early to miss the end credits and some of the grimmer details.
 
If I'd been Hunter, think I would've checked out with a handful of Valium, a bottle of Benadryl, and a spoonful of acid. Prolly more fun than .45 caliber.

John
 
Spectre said:
If I'd been Hunter, think I would've checked out with a handful of Valium, a bottle of Benadryl, and a spoonful of acid. Prolly more fun than .45 caliber.

John
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A .45 is quicker, cleaner, and painless. It's the unknown that keeps us from pulling the trigger most times. It takes a helluva lot of courage or just plain old desperation to finally do the deed though. IMO.
I didn't know of the man nor his writings so I can't judge, couldn't anyway, don't have the right.
 
A .45 is quicker, cleaner, and painless
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Maybe not to the clean-up crew. :( I heard he was an NRA member, too- just allowing his death to be used as another statistic: you know- lies, damn lies...
 
Spectre said:
If I'd been Hunter, think I would've checked out with a handful of Valium, a bottle of Benadryl, and a spoonful of acid. Prolly more fun than .45 caliber.

John
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You know I have this problem with livestock that are beyond hope. Having taken too much of some stuff before and experienced the dizziness and disorientation I am always torn between having a vet euthanize something and shooting it. "The spins" is one of my most hated feelings, and probably one of the reasons I haven't drank more than one or 2 beersat a time in the last 15 years or so. I have always wondered if when something is euthanized if it produces that because it is so unpleasant to me. Worse than being in pain.
 
News has arrived that might change our perspectives about HST. He shot himself while on the phone to his wife. He'd been talking about suicide and writing instructions for his property after death.

I'm writing this post because this last bit changes my view of HST. I don't know yet how it changes, but this does diminish him and I even feel pity.
From what I can tell from the papers, the Widow seems to be doing OK.
I can't imagine doing that to another person.




munk
 
Munk,

I read this:

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3575306,00.html

and some other stuff and here's my take on it. I think that he had some physical injuries and felt down because of them. Then it seems to me that he had a real hot and cold relationship with his wife. Fighting and making up all the time. They got into a fight, she left and then either to "punish" her, or in a fit of impulsiveness he shot himself. We know he had a penchant for nose candy and alcohol, both which cause impulsive behavior and poor judgement. My guess is he just either was upset with his wife or just in a blue mood and did it on impulse. The fact that he called his wife and did it on the phone kind of supports my first hypothesis.

While I love HST and admire him in so many ways I feel like it was a total cop out on his part to do himself in.
 
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