Hydraulic press

That manual press will be miserably slow, You might be able to forgeweld with it, but it will suck.
 
It has air over hydraulic would that wrk or be dangerous?

It wont be dangerous.
In this context, Air over hydraulic is simply an air actuated ocsillation mechanism what does the 'hyd pumping.
While can be faster than a good right arm, its still pretty slow.

Btw, most air/'hyd jacks have also manual pumping ability.
 
I use a mini press I built a long time ago that use an air over oil 20ton jack. And yes it's not as fast as say my buddy salems press (I like his press) it's still a hell of a lot faster then going after it by hand. And it can move some metal as long as you don't take to long as the billet cools. I make a lot of Damascus with mine and even though it's slower then a big press I'm happy with it for what it is. It sits on my bench next to my forge and does all I ask it to do. I regularly forge down a 2"X 2"x6" billets of Damascus with it. I did one that was about twice that a few months ago. Would I use it over a big press, no. But it was a hell of a lot cheaper to build. I will be building a larger purpos built press later next year I hope but this gets me through my needs at the moment.

I have a few sets of dies made for it and thy work really good for that it is.
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You can see the difference between JT's press and that one on eBay. His is beefy, rigid, and well braced. That shop press you lined to might work for straightening a bent bar, stamping a logo, or pressing in/out a car part, but it won't work for forging.

In bottle jack presses, speed is the main problem. You often only get a few squeezes per heat.
 
Alright So I have been looking into making one of the small bottlejack presses. How thick do the walls on the square tubing need to be?
 
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