Hydroplaning....It's not just for kids anymore

Totally Judy said:
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Now, THAT is one BAD parking job...I'm afraid that I'd have to issue you a parking infraction.:D.

Seriously, I'm very glad that you and your dogs are ok. Sorry about your vehicle.
 
Sorry to hear that this happened to you, Just glad to hear that you are OK.
 
Cougar Allen said:
What would the parking ticket say? Wheels more than 12 inches from curb?
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No, I'd have to cite her for parking over the curb, not parking between the white lines, and not parking in a marked parking space...I also don't see her GHC College vehicles' registration sticker in her rear window, so that would be ANOTHER $20...For a grand total of about $120 in parking fines.:D.:D.
 
Gollnick said:
As you drive, your tires wear down. It's just a fact.

Where does all that tire stuff go? It goes onto the surface of the pavement, that's where!

Tires are made of????... well... they're actually made of oil!

And oil floats on water.

So, when a rain comes after a long period of dry, the roads are especially slick as all of that oil from the tire wear floats to the top of the water.
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Slightly off topic, but I just had a Monty Python flashback.

Now, a duck also floats on water. So that means that a duck and oil...

Sorry, I just couldn't help myself. :D
 
glockman99 said:
Now, THAT is one BAD parking job...I'm afraid that I'd have to issue you a parking infraction.:D.

Seriously, I'm very glad that you and your dogs are ok. Sorry about your vehicle.
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It wasn't my fault. I was in a hurry and parked in the first available spot I could find. There were bingo sign ups across the street and I couldn't wait for the next off-ramp.

And you couldn't see the GHC College vehicles' registration sticker in my rear window because of the angle of my park job. It's hardly MY fault you were too lazy to get out of your golf cart to look to see if I had my sticker. Besides, as a school district employee I am not required to display a sticker.
 
be honest-you just left bingo and had a few too many with the other old ladies to be driving-

this time it was a pair of imaginary dogs along for the ride,last time it was a pink elephant-

so dont drink and drive,get new tires and drive to the weather and road conditions instead of speeding around loaded looking for another bingo game
 
Sorry about your truck, Judy, but I'm glad to hear you're okay. That looks like it was about to get a lot worse. :eek:

I second Gollnick's advice about the first rain after a dry period being very dangerous. I was once on a back road after it had stopped raining (moderate rain, but the first we had gotten for quite a while). It was night time, and I was the only one on the road, and as I was going around an unexpected curve I experienced loss of traction resulting in oversteer until I lost all traction, the back swung out, and I traveled sideways down the road. I cut the wheel and hit the brakes, and by some miracle stayed on the road, but I certainly learned a lesson about underestimating the slickness of roads.
 
rosconey2 said:
be honest-you just left bingo and had a few too many with the other old ladies to be driving-

this time it was a pair of imaginary dogs along for the ride,last time it was a pink elephant-

so dont drink and drive,get new tires and drive to the weather and road conditions instead of speeding around loaded looking for another bingo game
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Sheesh. I am sooooo busted. Old ladies have to hang with other old ladies, you know. Hey. That pink elephant was NOT imaginary. It is Sophie's toy and if you squeeze it it honks like an elephant. I left it at home with Sophie this trip.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with my tires.

So there. Does anyone know where I placed my church key?

TJ
 
Daniel Moore said:
Sorry about your truck, Judy, but I'm glad to hear you're okay. That looks like it was about to get a lot worse. :eek:

I second Gollnick's advice about the first rain after a dry period being very dangerous. I was once on a back road after it had stopped raining (moderate rain, but the first we had gotten for quite a while). It was night time, and I was the only one on the road, and as I was going around an unexpected curve I experienced loss of traction resulting in oversteer until I lost all traction, the back swung out, and I traveled sideways down the road. I cut the wheel and hit the brakes, and by some miracle stayed on the road, but I certainly learned a lesson about underestimating the slickness of roads.
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Amen to that. Black ice and water hydroplaning. You're pretty much helpless in both situations.
 
just because they have tread doesnt mean they are good-tires get hard after 3-4 years

black ice and water-is that a new old lady drink?
 
rosconey2 said:
just because they have tread doesnt mean they are good-tires get hard after 3-4 years

black ice and water-is that a new old lady drink?
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My tires are just under 2 years old, so there.

Black Ice and Water is an Old Lady Drink that is made from freezing Kahlua into ice cubes and using them with club soda (water). Kind of like a Black Russian but not a Black Russian. Sissy Old Ladies add a little bit of half & half and it becomes a modified version of a "Smith and Kern's" Old Lady Drink.

Trust me. We Old Lady Bingo Bitch's know how to mix our drinks. Sometimes one of us will get really daring and drop a couple of aspirin's into a Coke......

TJ
 
Light rain on top of an accumlation of oil is NOT hydroplaning ! Hydroplaning is when the tires don't contact the road but ride on a layer of water that may be 3/8" thick ! Often caused by worn tires it can also be caused by poorly designed roads where the water accumulates instead of draining off.
 
mete said:
Light rain on top of an accumlation of oil is NOT hydroplaning ! Hydroplaning is when the tires don't contact the road but ride on a layer of water that may be 3/8" thick ! Often caused by worn tires it can also be caused by poorly designed roads where the water accumulates instead of draining off.
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Thanks for that info, Mete. Tires sliding on an oily and wet surface is different than hydroplaning. Most people have hit a slick spot where you vehicle slides for a little bit. Hydroplaning - your tires really do have that layer of water between them and the asphalt. No traction at all. It's not like when your vehicle fishtails and you are supposed to turn into the swerve. I don't think there is much you can do when in the middle of hydroplaning except yell, "Surf's Up!!". It is such a helpless feeling. I'm sure that the experts can teach a person how to safely recover from a hydroplane, but I don't have the answer right now. I think I'll search that on the internet.

The guy who witnessed both collisions said that he saw the minivan hydroplaning. I know that I was hydroplaning. I think I hit the same patch of water that the mini-van hit.
 
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My dad built a hydroplane when I was a kid and we used to bomb around the local lakes. It is possible to steer a hydroplane but only gradually. There's so little boat in the water when you're at speed.... If you try to turn too suddenly you find yourself going sideways but still going in the same direction. You have to look ahead and begin your turn long before you would with a normal boat.

When a car hydroplanes you only have a quarter inch or so of tire in the water to try to steer with. You can use the front wheels as rudders to some extent but you can only turn very gradually, with a turning circle hundreds of feet in diameter at best. That isn't likely to be much help. Other than that all you can do is wait until you slow to below hydroplaning speed, and that's going to take a while too.
 
One lesson I had about hydroplaning was back in the days when I often flew in Boeing 727s. I knew a fellow who was with one of the big tire companies and I happened to mention to him coming in for a landing and the pilot dropped that plane seemingly like an elevator onto a rainsoaked runway. I though the pilot handled the plane well but was told by the tire man there was a reason for it !! Coming down fairly hard was to break the water layer ! Had he come down gradually he would have hydroplaned and that would not have been fun in a big jet !!
 
mete said:
One lesson I had about hydroplaning was back in the days when I often flew in Boeing 727s. I knew a fellow who was with one of the big tire companies and I happened to mention to him coming in for a landing and the pilot dropped that plane seemingly like an elevator onto a rainsoaked runway. I though the pilot handled the plane well but was told by the tire man there was a reason for it !! Coming down fairly hard was to break the water layer ! Had he come down gradually he would have hydroplaned and that would not have been fun in a big jet !!
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So I should try to "Dukes of Hazzard" style landing whenever I see water on the road right? :D
 
mete said:
One lesson I had about hydroplaning was back in the days when I often flew in Boeing 727s. I knew a fellow who was with one of the big tire companies and I happened to mention to him coming in for a landing and the pilot dropped that plane seemingly like an elevator onto a rainsoaked runway. I though the pilot handled the plane well but was told by the tire man there was a reason for it !! Coming down fairly hard was to break the water layer ! Had he come down gradually he would have hydroplaned and that would not have been fun in a big jet !!
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That's really interesting, I'm working on my Private Pilot right now.:cool: What else did you fly?
 
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