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TheEdge01

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I was going to go knife shopping with my income tax money and was trying to decide what I wanted to get. Well, I like a strong knife with a relatively thick sturdy blade, and I want to be confident that it will hold up for years and years.
I was going to go knife shopping again recently but we are going to wait a little while. Well, instead of getting more lower cost knives, I decided to just spend a large amount and get a Hinderer. I haven’t bought one yet, but it is next on the list, at this point I am just trying to decide which one to get.
So far the the XM-18 and Jurassic are the two that really stand out. I am hoping to keep my budget around 400 -425 dollars. This is the absolute most I have spent on a knife and my wife is actually supportive of my idea.
For those of you that own a Hinderer, do these knives hold up well with use? Which model do you recommend between the XM-18 and the Jurassic, or should I look at another model? Are these actual custom knives or mid tech? Thanks guys
 
If I were in the market for one I'd get the XM-18. I like the design more and you have a lot of customization options even later on, other scales, pivots, clips, stand offs. I'd assume the Jurassic might get that too, but when I think Hinderer I think XM18/24. They are definitely users, so I don't think you need to be worried about them holding up. Be careful with the spending, pushing your budget happens quicker than you think. You might also want to consider waiting for the recently announced Generation 5 if you want the latest (or might want to wait for a deal on the Exchange for somebody selling off their Gen 4 when the Gen 5 drop), just something to consider. :thumbsup:
 
b00n said:
If I were in the market for one I'd get the XM-18. I like the design more and you have a lot of customization options even later on, other scales, pivots, clips, stand offs. I'd assume the Jurassic might get that too, but when I think Hinderer I think XM18/24. They are definitely users, so I don't think you need to be worried about them holding up. Be careful with the spending, pushing your budget happens quicker than you think. You might also want to consider waiting for the recently announced Generation 5 if you want the latest (or might want to wait for a deal on the Exchange for somebody selling off their Gen 4 when the Gen 5 drop), just something to consider. :thumbsup:
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Oh yeah, the budget runs out rather quickly.
 
ZT is coming out with this soon:
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It's a Hinderer design obviously, but better looking in my opinion than any of the actual Hinderer knives and cheaper.
 
ScooterG said:
If you must get a Hinderer, get one off the exchange for $300-350 and then use the extra $100 for a Spyderco/Cold Steel/Kershaw/Benchmade/Buck/etc that excels at cutting things.

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Lol!!! I was thinking about that song when I titled the thread.
 
Ajack60 said:
What other knives do you own?
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I just bought a Brous VR-71 recently, I have a couple cheapo modern folders, a couple traditional folders, I normally carry an SAK to work. I did have a nice collection built up but ended up selling most of it off. Instead of getting a couple nice folders, I would like to get one good folder built to last.
 
TheEdge01 said:
I just bought a Brous VR-71 recently, I have a couple cheapo modern folders, a couple traditional folders, I normally carry an SAK to work. I did have a nice collection built up but ended up selling most of it off. Instead of getting a couple nice folders, I would like to get one good folder built to last.
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Then get a CRK Sabenza/Inkosi for the same money. Spend less money on a PM2/Griptillian/Military/American Lawman. I can't see how any of those wouldn't last a lifetime under normal use. They're all well built and meant to be used. The CRK is just "tighter" and very well built. Decision for you is if it's 3-4x better made.
 
Gotcha, the reason I asked is that I’ve got a couple of older Hinderers. From what I’ve read, the detent has gotten better. Mine doesn’t have a strong detent and I find the two I have work better using the thumb studs to open the blade. They do run on Teflon washers, but you can change them out if you find the desire to do so. They do sell the Teflon washers.
IMO, Hinderer does an excellent job with their heat treat. For me, they’re not the best slicers, which is why I had one re ground. So, if you do get one and want to change it a bit, you can do it with confidence that the knife will still hold up with regular use.
BTW, the 2 I have are XM 18’s. I think you’ll be happy with a Hinderer and it will serve you for many years.
 
ScooterG said:
Then get a CRK Sabenza/Inkosi for the same money. Spend less money on a PM2/Griptillian/Military/American Lawman. I can't see how any of those wouldn't last a lifetime under normal use. They're all well built and meant to be used. The CRK is just "tighter" and very well built. Decision for you is if it's 3-4x better made.
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Well as far as CRK goes I was looking at the Sebenza 21 Insigno. It is a tad cheaper, and I have read good things about it, but never held one.
 
You didn’t mention a CRK ;), if you want a beefier blade, look at the Insigno Inkosi. For me, in the slicing department, a Sebenza 21 is hard to beat and makes for a good all around knife. The 25, Inkosi, Umnumzaan are my preferred work knives. Currently, I’m carrying a partially serrated 21 for work. The 21 will do anything the others will do, in my mind, the thicker blade gives me a warm fuzzy feeling when I choose to do be rough using a knife.
 
I really prefer buying new, I just prefer any wear and tear on the knife to come from me, I’m just funny that way.
Okay, I did have my sights set on a Hinderer but I am now torn between a Chris Reeve large Sebenza Insigno, or the Hinderer XM-18. The only two concerns about the crk is how the current quality is since Mr Reeve left and how well the titanium lock holds up over time. Is it titanium against steel, or does it have a carbide insert to reduce wear?
 
Ajack60 said:
You didn’t mention a CRK ;), if you want a beefier blade, look at the Insigno Inkosi. For me, in the slicing department, a Sebenza 21 is hard to beat and makes for a good all around knife. The 25, Inkosi, Umnumzaan are my preferred work knives. Currently, I’m carrying a partially serrated 21 for work. The 21 will do anything the others will do, in my mind, the thicker blade gives me a warm fuzzy feeling when I choose to do be rough using a knife.
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I really didn’t give CRK a lot of thought until another post mentioned it. The one I’m looking at is the large Sebenza Insigno. It’s actually a tad cheaper than the Hinderer. Are they as good now as before since Chris pulled out? How well does the titanium lock hold up?
 
I have gone through a few CRK's and my last one is the umnumzaan,that would be my rec for a hard use knife over the seb and Inkosi
 
TheEdge01 said:
I really prefer buying new, I just prefer any wear and tear on the knife to come from me, I’m just funny that way.
Okay, I did have my sights set on a Hinderer but I am now torn between a Chris Reeve large Sebenza Insigno, or the Hinderer XM-18. The only two concerns about the crk is how the current quality is since Mr Reeve left and how well the titanium lock holds up over time. Is it titanium against steel, or does it have a carbide insert to reduce wear?
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The lock bar is carburized where it meets with the blade steel. Most of my users have settled to about 60% lock up and have not moved.
I hvent seen quality issues with the ones I’ve bought in the last year. I’ve read several threads about different complaints that folks have had, you can read them and draw your own conclusions. All I have to say on that is, I’m not anal about every detail with any knife I’ve bought regardless of the price of the knife.
 
Between the Jurassic and the XM-18 3.5 you are going to get a lot more people recommending the XM-18 3.5. This is true for 2 reasons.

1. The Jurassic is relatively new to the market so not as many people own them.

2. The XM-18 3.5 has been made for a long time and there are lots of parts and accessories available.

Based on your above statements I would go Jurassic any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Don't get me wrong, I love the 3.5 and it is a great knife, but you are saying that accessorizing is not in your budget and it is going to be for hard use. The Jurassic excels at hard use, feels great in the hand, and the drop edge really kicks in for those times you need to put more power behind your cut. I even did a video about why folks should consider the Jurassic over the XM-18.

The bonus is that parts, scales and other accessories are currently being made for the Jurassic so if later on you have the money to accessorize then they will be available.

Either way both knives from Hinderer are excellent and will serve you well. Let us know when you decide!
 
I felt in love with a large sebenza 21 insingo last year.
The breaking in period was quite long but now it is really smooth.
If you prefer thicker blades, go for the inkosi insingo it shall be great (I have a large inkosi with a clip point blade and like it a lot).

It would have saved me a lot of money to start with this one.
I have now to sell quite a lot of knives.

But CRK are good if you enjoy manual opening, sure you can flick them open after they has break in, but that is not where they are the best.
Good experience with other manual openers: ZT0630 and PM2 (like the S110v!).
Honorable mentions: ZT0550, Griptilian, BM 940... but mines are going to be sold now...

So if you are into flippers, better to look at other options. I like ZT for making good flippers are "reasonnable" prices.
Good experience with ZT: 0801, 0562, 0350.... but my insingo has spoiled them for me, I shall find another lover in this category :)
 
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