I Ain't Got No Stinkin' HIKV

Originally posted by Kismet
used by a lot of folks. Generally, one does not want to be that close to a home invader when defending one's home.

Small dogs, phones, inexpensive alarm systems if it is a potential threat...safer for you.

and there is always this fast-burning powder in a cartridge I've heard about.
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In my case, meant primarily for my daughter. But before bad guy can get to her and she have to defend herself he has to get past the heavy deadbolted door, the 90-lb big barking dog, the alarm system which is always set when the daughter is home alone, the fact my kid is trained to evacuate the house and get to a neighbor's, and if she has time, hit the panic button on the alarm. She has a cell phone within arm's reach always, as well as an honest to gosh Type XVIIIb sword with a 37" blade, that she's pretty darned good at using. Naturally, she uses the weapon only if she can't escape, and the bad guy attempts to close with her - after busting the lock on the master bedroom door.

I believe in a layered defense (grin).

The only time she'd need the Khukri is she didn't have the sword handy.

At age 13, I don't quite trust her yet with a handgun. But she's got a good head on her shoulders. I figure by the time she turns 15 or so, she might merit the trust that comes with having a loaded semi-auto or revolver in her hands in such a situation.

The only thing worse than having to use deadly force is to not use it when it is the only option left.

Don
 
Don -
The Malla is the only Khuk I have owned that screamed WEAPON to me when I first picked it up. If you have seen the write-up on it, the design comes from the time when the Malla kings ruled Nepal. Light armor was common then, and the Malla and Hanshee are examples of Khukuris adapted to a heavy "point first" strike. A slightly extended strike cuts just like any other Khuk - deep. The GS is still my favorite, as a more "general purpose" fighting design, and the Chitlangi is ever so slightly behind. Whatever else is said, they are all Khukuris, and their usage overlaps in so many ways that they are to some extent all the same....but different. That should help with the confusion :rolleyes:
 
Personally, I own a 20" sirupati and gave an 18" GS to a friend. I've handled a kobra in this range, but only a 22" Chitlangi, which is in a completely different league from the shorter stuff.

Based on my experience, I'd go for the 18" GS because it's light enough to be quick, but has just a bit more mass than a Kobra. Sirupati is just a tad blade-heavy for quick maneuverability (keep in mind I have a 20", so the 18" might be less so.) Lots of good stuff has been said about the Malla and Chit for this type of thing, but I don't have enough experience to compare them.

Given that the primary user will be a 13 year old girl - I assume she's not built like Conan - a Kobra might be appropriate. The handles tend to be a bit smaller, and the overall knife is lighter. If she's already got a sword, she can probably put a quick blade to good use.
 
I dunno what makes one khuk more weaponesque than another, but I got this 15"AK by Bura, which is the first khuk Ive ever picked up that spoke to me as a potential weapon. I suppose alot of it has to do with your training, but Im a believer in listening to what your blades tell you when you pick it up. And if its meant to be, youll know. Anyways, there are so many opinions on what a weapon should be, should it be light, should it be heavy, should it be long or short, angle of bend, etc... Best way to find out which would make a best weapon would be to buy one of each.:eek: :D :p
 
Differences between the same khuks eg;18" Sirupatis can be big. The kobras are supposed to be lighter than say Sirupatis but are not neccesarily so. The Kobra handles should be thinner than other khuks and this might make a big difference in how the khuk handles. Some just feel great others don't talk to me the same way. I'd try an 18" Sirupati for starters. I think Uncle has a good selection of these.
 
Don, I was going to push the Kobra. I've got an 18" Kobra that weighs 1 lb. 2 oz and is a sweet fighting knife. It's a lot thicker than I would have expected from the way the people on the forum talk. It's sitting beside me now in the living room.
However, your daughter can use a Type XVIIIB?! That's impressive for a 13 year old! She could handle a heavier khukuri. I still think a lighter khukuri is better for fighting but the best answer is to ask her.

As far as a khukuri for home defense.
I've had my home invaded twice ... by the police. Needless to say I did not attack them. (They were not looking for me in either case.)
The one time I had to run out of the house when I heard a woman screaming, I grabbed a baseball bat. The man had run away by the time I got there.
I have friends with carry permits for there pistols.
The only person I know who's come close to stopping a crime is a (then) 15 year old who followed a bank robber during his getaway until the man pulled a gun. The boy was unarmed.

All ideas about self defense are sort of academic.
 
Resistance is futile. You have been assimilated.



p.s. The Borg like the GS, of the light variety.
 
Originally posted by Red
Don, I was going to push the Kobra. I've got an 18" Kobra that weighs 1 lb. 2 oz and is a sweet fighting knife. It's a lot thicker than I would have expected from the way the people on the forum talk. It's sitting beside me now in the living room.
However, your daughter can use a Type XVIIIB?! That's impressive for a 13 year old! She could handle a heavier khukuri. I still think a lighter khukuri is better for fighting but the best answer is to ask her.
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Heya, Red;

I think I owe you terrific folk an explanation. My 13 year old "girl" stands a good 5'5" and probably weighs between 130-150 lbs. I don't know her weight exactly, but cherish our relationship too much to ask (smile). But both her grand-dads are broadshoulderd, big chested folk and she inherited those big bones.

Yeah, she could lose 15-lbs or so off her tummy, no denying that. But she is also strong as hell.

I don't suppose that I mentioned that she's a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu practitioner. For those who don't know the art, think of a blending of boxing (10%), Karate (10%), Judo/Jiu Jitsu (30%), wrestling (30%), and plain mean old junk yard dog street fighting (20%).

As a lark my kid arm wrestled both her mom and me. Her mom is no delicate flower either, having a rather stocky frame. She beat her mom three matches in a row. And then she arm wrestled me. I beat her all three times, but I'd be lying if I said it was easy.

She works out every day, either running, weight lifting, or doing exercise videos.

And she is a quick study, and very aggressive "in the arena" as it were. Yeah, she can handle an XVIIIb quite well. Though to be honest, it's one of the lighter ones I've seen at 2-lbs 5-oz. But I've seen her cut with it, and woe be to anyone coming after her who isn't armed with a firearm. She'll remove their arms, and if they are lucky, they'll fall backward before her return stroke hits their throat or face.

Don
 
Originally posted by Red
I know a 16 year old boy to introduce her to.
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Who knows, maybe in a few years we can arrange a marriage to occur when my kid graduates from college (grin).

Last night my kid was telling me how jazzed she is about the inbound BAS Khuk, and she was getting pretty excited when I was telling her about the next potential acquisition. I'm hoping the BAS's arrive before the weekend. That would be pretty cool.

Don
 
Just saw a picture of an 18" Chainpuri. Lordy what an elegant weapon!

Again, how does one get one of these?

Thanks.

PS: The 18" Kobra is pretty slick too!
 
I have three, one 21" HI, and 2 villagers. Both 17": one 1s 20 ozs, and the other is 14 ozs.

By the way, If you're in Reno for this years Safari Club International, you should be able to get updated info on their forthcoming 400 H&H and their 465 H&H.

African Hunter
 
Originally posted by ddean
Sniff. Wipe eye.

You know, it's sad when HIKV first comes on.

The denial. The rationalization.

HaHaHaHaHaHaHa HeHeHeHeHeHeHeHe

:(

Sad.
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Dude. I am like, going through some serious changes here now. I've already identified the following Khuks that have now made their way on to my "Gotta Get" List:

Sirupati-18"
Chitlangi-18"
Gelbu Spec #1-18"
Malla-19"
Chainpuri-18"
Kobra-18"

Man, these are some really sweet looking blades. The last time I had this kind of epiphany I bought a couple dozen swords over the space of a year. And, these Khuks are a LOT cheaper (HUGE GRIN).

I'm chomping at the bit because with luck my two BAS's might arrive as early as today. Trying not to get my hopes up.



(but not succeeding at it.........)
 
This is not good.

I was revisiting the various Khuks again and something rather astonishing has happened.

Over the last few days, the Ang Kholas were, well, "okay", I guess. I'm sure they are terrific tools and weapons, but they didn't really do much for me.

But today, they looked different somehow. More attractive. In fact, quite studly really, especially the Chiruwa models. So, what makes a Chiruwa Khuk, a Chiruwa? I notice they seem to have what appear to be riveted handles. Is that the major difference?

Don
 
Originally posted by Don Nelson ..... and she was getting pretty excited when I was telling her about the next potential acquisition.
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So what's her favorite khuk picture?
 
Originally posted by Don Nelson
what makes a Chiruwa Khuk, a Chiruwa? I notice they seem to have what appear to be riveted handles. Is that the major difference?
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Bingo.
& full width tang exposed on the sides.
Rivets secondary to nature of tang.

Do a search for 'chiruwa' to get the discussions of pros & cons.
Mostly to do with vibration/shock when chopping.
 
Originally posted by Don Nelson
the Ang Kholas ......., quite studly really,
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The AngKholas are the macho studs of the khuk world.

..........Unless, you put a Ganga Ram Special next to it.

:D

BABY 18" Ganga Ram Special
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AK 18"
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Originally posted by ddean
So what's her favorite khuk picture?
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I don't know. I'll ask her tonight. What surprised me was this:

When I first wandered over here I was so taken by these Khukuris that I couldn't contain my excitement. Had my kid log on to the net and visit the site, and then I got busy and didn't get a chance to really look at the site with her.

The next day I ordered the BAS's. Came home almost skipping around the living room, telling her I ordered two BAS's for the price of one. She asked what a BAS was, and what it looked like. I told her it was the British Army Service and that it looked like.....

And then she interupts me and says "Cool! That was one of those I liked best!"

I couldn't believe it. Earlier she didn't seem to have acted much like she had even given the site much of a looking over really, much less had even picked out ones she liked.

It'll be interesting to see which ones she's most attracted to. Personally, I find the 17-19" ones the most asthetically pleasing, but I figure I'll reach a stage where I'll be less driven by the asthetics and more by the functional capabilities as I get more experienced with them.

I'm seriously afeared, amigo, I just might have a case of this HIKV after all.

Don
 
Originally posted by Don Nelson
I'm seriously afeared, amigo, I just might have a case of this HIKV after all.
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Let's test, what is your reaction to the kathimoda khuk UBE just posted for sale this morning?
You must use at least one complete sentence.
17" 22oz
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