I almost went crazy last night! Flashlight help needed!

Crayola

Crayola

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So last night I was looking on the SureFire website, as well as the forum. I am thinking that getting an EDC light that can be used in defensive situations in the city and other emergencies would be a good idea. So I go to look and wow! I was overwhelmed with the different configurations and such. Can someone help me out?

I don't really know what to ask; where do I start??

How about here. I am trying to figure out what would make a good EDC light that will be used short term, especially at night where the self defensive applications of the light would shine :)

Ease of carry is a must, I'd liek something that could be used as a strikign implement too (i.e. if I hold the light in a tight fist, it sticks out on each end of my fist some.) I suspect a 2 cell light is the way to go. But what are the advantages between the E2, E2e, M2, C2, and whatever else is there? And then I saw an E2e+z1something or other, which I believe was a LED lamp assembly for the E2e body. Is that a good thing to have? Maybe as an accessory after I got a light? And then I heard talk of digital somethingorothers, like the A2 model. I am utterly confused, and your help would be most appreciated!!!

Thanks.
 
I had the same problem.

Now I've got a couple of E1's, an E1e, E2, E2e and G2.

I'd recommend the E2e.
 

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I have an E2e I EDC. I recommend it highly. Very nice light. As far as I know, the A2 model has not been released yet...working out bugs...but it looks very cool!

The E2e is hard anodized and has a pyrex lens and lock out tail cap. Aluminum Overcast has a ton of Surefires. He recommended the E2e to me and I am very happy with his recommendation. Use it almost everyday!

I also have an ARC AAA LED light on my keychain.
 
Awesome guys!!! And Michael, thanks for the pics. Those sheahts look fantastic too.

Is the E2e an E2 but with the pyrex lens or something like that? I think every recomendation I have read was for the pyrex lens- must be good. What does it do over a "regular" lens?

Also, I was wondering what "accessories" would go best with an EDC light? Is a sheath necessary if there is a pocket clip on the light?

Thanks guys, you're awesome. I'd be lost in the dark without you :)
 
The E2 and the E2E use the same lamp but have different bodies.
The E2 is slimmer while the E2E is slightly beefier and has a beveled body which some may find easier to hold onto.
The E2E also has the pyrex lens which can stand up better to heat (Surefire lights get HOT) and is more shatter resistant.
I'd expect to find the E2 in someone's suit pocket and the E2E in someone's cargo pants.

The M2 is beefier still and is basically a tactical light.
It comes with two different lamps (high power and higher power) and is fully shock resistant.
The M2 would be in Rambo's pocket.

The G2 has a nylon composite body which is beefier than the E2 but lighter.
 
GJW, thanks for your info! Your simple post was way easier for me to deal with than the SureFire foum! Maybe after a bit more learnings on my part and I'll be able to survive over there :)

Sounds like something like the E2 is not for me then, but the E2E os something similar would be the way to go.

So how does a guy pick between E2e, M2, C2, and similar pieces?
 
Oh, and one more question! What exactly does a shock isolated bevel do? The M2 has one, the E2e doesn't. What's the difference?
 
When my 8X was into SF for repairs I carried my E2E HA on patrol working midnights. Liked it so much I am keeping in with my street gear even though my 8X is back. If you are holding an E2E HA in the normal grip and hit a baddie between the eyes with a hammer strike it will have the desired results. This is the area a sniper aims for. It will short circuit him.
 
I guess you have to figure out what you really want.
They're all the same light output.

For easy pocket carry, the E2 and the E2E are about the same diameter as a miniMag but shorter in length. Both come with a pocket clip.

If that's not as important then the 6P, and the D2 are slightly bigger and have more options (optional brighter lamps, beam shapers, beam filters, etc.)
The C2 and the M2 are bigger still.

For my money I'd go with the E2 or the E2E.
The light output is the same but in a smaller package.

If you're really into the striking aspect then look at the picture in this post:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000837

This is an aftermarket item for the E2E.

The E2E will also be compatible with the upcoming K series bezels.
These will convert your incandescent lamp to an LED lamp for longer lamp and battery life but a less bright light.
 
For many people, the SureFire E2e (Executive Elite) is the ultimate in EveryDayCarry flashlight.

It has a number of output options. The stock MN03 lamp, the low output/long runtime MN02 lamp, or the soon to be released Digitally Regulated Luxeon (LED) Bezel - the KL1.

I am sure you will pick up the SureFire-speak of SFDB. Please ask us any questions and we will try out best to answer.

Best regards,

Al

Moderator: SureFire Discussion Board
Administrator: CandlePowerForums
 
I was in the same situation as you about a month ago. I decided on the E2e in the hard anodized variety, and haven't looked back. This light is excellent for EDC as everyone else here has mentioned. It is a great light in a small package. Just be sure to use the lock-out tailcap...I forgot to and when I pulled it out of my back pocket almost all the juice was gone :(.

Keep in mind that the batteries for this puppy are pretty expensive and you go through them like candy with the stock lamp (about 60-70 min run time).
 
Camo E2e here

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Originally posted by Crayola
GJW, thanks for your info! Your simple post was way easier for me to deal with than the SureFire foum! Maybe after a bit more learnings on my part and I'll be able to survive over there :)
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Bah, come on over Crayola, we don't bite. Much. :)

I've got an E2-HA and really like it. I personally don't plan on replacing it with an E2e. I've got a couple of MN-02s on the way, and I'll get the KL-1. The light isn't used in a manner that it gets really hot, and I have bigger and brighter lights if I need them.

Either way, though the E2 or E2e are great lights for every day use.
 
Another vote for the E2e. Such a good light and the ideal place to start your collection of Surefires :D

At least thats what happened to me... :rolleyes:

Those leather holsters are great! Where? How much? I want...

Regards,
Hellz
E1, E1e, E2, E2e, M2, M3T, M6... (and counting...)
 
I must be a Luddite...
I still really, really rate the 6P with the P61 assembly.
You need brighter than that? You need a rifle... it really smartened up a couple of young guys who thought it would be clever to sneak up on an old couple(me and mine) walking dogs in the park. One warning yap from the Borders, one very bright introduction to a real torch.
"Evening lads. Can I help you?" They went on their way.

I'm currently bidding for a couple of E1's for wife's handbag[purse for Americans <grin>] and my suit pocket.

Those are, I believe, pretty wimpy. Only 15 lumens against the 120 of the 6P with the HOLA.
 
The UK, people just don't expect your "hand" to "violently blaze" a "shockingly blinding" "stab of light". Good use of the E1e can be more then enough to overcome an unprepared advance. Some quick strobes from a P61 on a dark night do make people think twice.

Obviously such use of light wouldn't have such profound results on a skilled, experienced, and willful attacker. It's good for us that the 'hoards' are unskilled, inexperienced, and will-less. Not that I worry about such things.

BTW, I do not have the skills, the experience or the motivation to prepare for such events. Personally, I hope I never feel the need to learn. Of course having a wife and/or children would change my perspective. If I get hurt because I was not prepared is one thing. Failing to protect my family is a whole different kettle of chips.

My point is that it's all very well carrying the tools, but if you don't know how to use them in the real world, they won't protect you (so for me, I don't expect them too).

Al
 
Originally posted by Size15s
It's good for us that the 'hoards' are unskilled, inexperienced, and will-less. Not that I worry about such things.

BTW, I do not have the skills, the experience or the motivation to prepare for such events. Personally, I hope I never feel the need to learn. ...My point is that it's all very well carrying the tools, but if you don't know how to use them in the real world, they won't protect you (so for me, I don't expect them too).

Al
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Hmm, I can't see an emoticon for <nods vigorously>.

The reason for a bright light is to see far and clear.
Mostly, it's the dogs that I want to see far and clear.

The fact that "young men" know they are seen, may have helped refine their views as to what their intentions were.

Defending yourself?
Read advice at selfdefense forums - I'm still just beginning to learn.
But a good light source helps both your confidence and preparedness...
 
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