I suggest trying one out for sure! Ive got many spydies: pm2, domino, lionspy, valotton and a zt 801. my daily rotation is between the 801, pm2, and domino and sometimes the spy, valotton is my gentleman's knife. But I think my 801 is my favorite out of all of them. And I can attest for their elmax, my 801 is #0094 and there is nothing wrong with it, just as good as my lionspy and microtech elmax. Im resisting getting a 0450 on the way only because im just starting a new job, but it will be the first thing i get. the valotton and the lionspy are some of spydercos beefiest knives, I want to try a slim light ZT really bad.