I am BACK!!!!

Good to see that the European part of the cantina has not disappeared - so now where is the French department and sharri from Poland?

Good luck for the university!

Andreas

 

Good to see your Socialist Butt back here. JUst Kidding!!




munk

 

welcome back - nice pic!

 

What happened to the pic?

 

Stm, you know, there has to be a better role than 'opponent'. The word opposite gives me some problems. "Different" is not satisfying. Neither is, "alternative'.... well, there's always 'parallel but unjoined..... ' Stmm, our language doesn't give us very many alternatives to 'opposition'.



munk

 

Munk, I meant opponant in the debating sense>>> Stmm

Of Course You Did!!



munk

 

No.

Tell us about the Fox Hunt ban.



munk

 

simply to the upper class tradition of rampaging across the countryside after a loan fox with a pack of hounds and a hoard of horsemen. Personally I think this hunting should be stopped because it is unnecessary, the animals caught are not eaten but are torn to shreds by a pack of dogs and then shoveled into a sand bag. >>>>>>> Stmm Zm


I could see doing that to a Loan Shark but not a fox. The Load Shark deserves even the dogs, though I must draw the line about eating him.

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I see the hunt much differently than you. There is nothing wrong with dogs chasing a fox. The fox dies. That is exactly what happens to foxes around here, only it's coyotees, dogs, or wolves.

Britain loses yet one more cultural icon. Too bad. You won't have anything left but cardboard grays and institutional pinks when the Nation is done correcting itself politically.

munk

 

Hey! Guess what? I don't live there! My opinion counts even less than it normally does. But I see cultural traditions and symbols being removed from public notice all over the World. This is not a good thing.

I do think the horse riders should have permission before crossing private property.

I wonder if you guys will ever get rid of your Royal House?

munk

 

My 2p, from another UK (NOT European) Forumite - we are NOT all blurry
copies of the napoleonic continental 'guilty till proven innocent' mob in brussels.

another victory for the animal rightists - most of the people involved in fox hunting are NOT upper class gits, of course you need a bit of money to indulge.

another case of anthropomorphism, the fox is NOT a cuddly little doggie, it's a vicious predator that kills livestock just for the joy of killing, if it goes into a chicken pen it kills ALL the chickens, not just one for dinner.

in hunting, the fox dies fairly quickly, or usually not at all (most get away) , not like being poisoned or shot - wounded & dieing slowly of gangrene, or in a trap like will happen now.

the majority of the countryside is in favor of hunting, or at least regulating it to get rid of some of the more abuseive aspects

it's city folk who don't have a clue where their meat actually comes from, and do not care how much of a knife edge farmers live on as long as they get their cheap pap from the discount super stores, and the socialist lefty liberals who can't stand seeing someone better off than them enjoying themselves - actually i'd say they can't stand ANYONE enjoying themselves.

as in a democracy, you have the right to choose not to hunt fox with hounds if you don't like it, (i choose not to myself) there is no need for a ban. if you want to impose your own morality on someone, like the terrorists in iraq want to, i'd think it would be better to do it by changing hearts and minds rather than imposingit by socialist fatwah. after all, the socialist labour government while they ARE in power, did get in with the votes of way less than half of the electorate, and have done their best to eliminate, ban or tax anything remotely interesting. i'm sure this hunting ban will have the same effect as the PETAist anmimal rightists who broke into mink farms here & released all the mink in protest over the fur trade. now, mink infest the streams and rivers and are killing all the native animals ( and doestic birds, etc) and playing havoc with the local ecology.

If any of the lefties saw me carrying my HI Kobra outside the house, it would be 5 years in jail for me - in the UK they effectively took away our knives, handguns, rifles and made it almost impossible to get a shotgun, a kid can get arrested for using a black water pistol in public, what's next? ban all forms of hunting, then ban eating meat, ban pets, - PETA and the animal rightist bombers must be laughing.

the socialists hate having anyone opposed to them being in any way armed or trained to use arms ( ref: JFKerry owns his own assault weapon but wants to take away the american right to be armed ) but wants only themselves to have that right. y'all back home in the USA watch out, what's happening here will happen over there if the socialist 'democrats' get elected. watch your right to keep and bear arms go down the tubes like over here, watch your right to choose to hunt or not be taken away, watch your children live in a socialist nightmare that will take ages and rivers of blood to get turned over, like in russia. doesn't anyone learn from the russian experience?

as far as the house of lords and the royal family, why get rid of institutions that have worked well for centuries, and produced a great british empire? well, it's gone down hill since the socialists have stuck their fingers in the pie, they want to, by slowly eroded away our rights, get rid of any independent opposition, like the house of lords who do not owe their position to favours dispensed by tony and his socialist cronies. or the queen, who has been stripped of most of her powers, lands, and income in the interest of marxist leninist 'social justice'.

they are already starting to ban government employees from belonging to legal opposing rightist political parties that the government disagrees with (but of course, not leftist parties).

unless we get a counterbalanced UK government with two independant houses and a presidential / supreme court system to counterbalance them, parliament will just be another socialist duma rubber stamping the socialist mediocracat policies of the current dictator.

ah, well, enough babbling, i need to get back to work, so i can afford to pay my taxes so tony can go to the riviera on holiday, and john prescott can drive around in his two jaguars.

the UK labour party is well named, we labour so they can party.

 

oh, yeah, i forgot to mention that the way they wrote the law up, only hunting fox with DOGS is banned. hunting on horseback is not.

brings up visions of packs of domesticated cheetah or hiena blasting thru the countryside to the sound of the hunting horns