I am in desperate need of HELP!!!!!

Breaking the bur off . . . such barbarism . . . stay at the original sharpening angle and abrade it until it isn't there. Again all depends on the stone. Probably ultra fine diamond stone is the way to go.
 
Wowbagger said:
OK . . .
give me some room boys . . .
we have an emergency here. . .
stand back . . . give him some air . . .

What I have found (call them facts if you like I think they are) :
  • Some steel sucks to sharpen . . . usually low end stainless . . . not saying I / you can't get it shaving.
  • Some steel likes some TYPES of stones (or hates some types of stones)
  • My M4 loves spyderco ultra fine ceramic rod for final edge
  • Many of my stainless blades just form a bur with the same ceramic rod and won't give it up
  • When I want to stop fooooooooling around and make something sharp I put it in a jig, use the right stones and start with a fairly coarse stone and go through at least three or four (or five or six) grit progressions. Once I get to the end of the progression, USING THE JIG, . . . I KNOW that I will have a hair whittling edge (***** shave sharp HA ! ***** way past shave sharp !) with no effort. About as difficult as playing scales on an instrument.

Edge angle makes all the difference in cutting effort 30° inclusive is great (not per side) (no micro).
HOWEVER with no extra steps, for my woodworking tools using the jig in the photo next to the white stone shown below, it is easy to produce a hair whittling edge on ~54° inclusive. No prob.

For knives I use the Edge Pro Apex
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For woodworking tools this jig and a selection of bench stones that work best with the steel being sharpened.
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Yes, yes it can be done by hand but takes way more concentration and :
  • Tallent
  • Skill
  • Luck
  • Proper star alignment
  • Putting your hat on just right with the bill curvature finely tuned according to the above
How you hold your tongue is a huge factor . . . a little too far out, a little too far to the left . . . all is lost . . . you may as well rub the knife on the side walk.

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Do you like a challenge ? Have lots of time ? Sharpen by hand.
Want to produce a precision cutting edge on a tool ? MACHINE it on there with another precision tool designed for the purpose.

We have a pulse . . . brain wave activity is coming back up . . .
Now it is all up to FedEx whether he whittles or not.

PS: oh and what steel is this knife you have ?
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Thanks man!!! I appreciate your knowledge and advise. I am using a sharpmaker. The steel on the Pallas is S35vn. I have not gotten back to it today but plan to tonight. I have recently changed career fields and it’s taken a toll on my funds. I want a fixed angle sharpener badly but unfortunately can not afford one. I will get one soon enough. Thanks again .
 
Thank you everyone for your words of wisdom. I really respect your opinions and help. I am going to try the UF stones again when I get home. I have also ordered a deburring block. I have a bench stone but do not possess the skills necessary to sharpen anything besides a kitchen knife with it and am too chicken shit to try it on the Pallas. I also do not have the funds to get an apex pro or wicked edge at the moment. I really appreciate the help and responses.
 
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