I am Joining the Emerson Ranks

MostMenAreRuthless

MostMenAreRuthless

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Brethren,

After much research and some input from my previous thread (http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1187178-(3)-Emersons-I-have-Been-Researching) I have made a decision and have negotiated the purchase of a gently USED Emerson Mini CQC7A from a fellow forum member. Being that this is my first Emerson purchase I wasn't ready to jump in feet first and pay retail for a NIB model so I opted for a used one on the Exchange.

I was attracted to this model because of the clean and simple lines, the lack of the wave--I have never needed to "deploy my blade" in a fast and furious manner--I find that the cardboard I cut usually just waits for me to cut it! Also, I like the thumb disc.

This particular unit has been modified--the original chisel grind edge was reprofiled on an Edge Pro to a standard V-grind. I was a little hesitant with the re-profiling because I wanted to try the original Emerson Chisel Grind, but alas, the price was right and I dig V-edges anyway!

I have a few questions for you Emerson Folks (I realize i can likely do a search and find some of these answers, but where is the fun in that?):

1. Because of the re-profiling job on the edge, has the warranty been voided?
2. Does Emerson allow the user to disassemble, service, and re-assemble without voiding the warranty?
3. If I decide to get a re-blade done on this one so I can try the original chisel grind, what is the total cost?
4. Any tips or tricks on breaking this baby in?

And now some pics for fun (Mr. EZ, I hope you don't mind me recycling these pics):


 
Great choice. I am looking hard a that model also. I am not an expert, but I can answer a couple of those questions.

2. Yes you can take it apart. Emerson designed the hardware for ease of dis-assembly / assembly.
3. That might be a question for the Emerson people.
4. Just use it. My Mini A100 has become one of my smoothest knives. All I did was spray WD-40 in the pivot & wipe down real good every now & then. Opening & closing over a period of time breaks them in. Never had to adjust or mess the pivot.

Others will join in here and provide great answers for you.
 
pmek5 said:
Great choice. I am looking hard a that model also. I am not an expert, but I can answer a couple of those questions.

2. Yes you can take it apart. Emerson designed the hardware for ease of dis-assembly / assembly.
3. That might be a question for the Emerson people.
4. Just use it. My Mini A100 has become one of my smoothest knives. All I did was spray WD-40 in the pivot & wipe down real good every now & then. Opening & closing over a period of time breaks them in. Never had to adjust or mess the pivot.

Others will join in here and provide great answers for you.
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Thank you for the responses Mr. pmek5.
 
1. Yes, the warranty is void because of the re-profile.

2. Yes, they're made for that.

3. Cost would be around $100-110 depending on the model.
 
EmersonREP said:
1. Yes, the warranty is void because of the re-profile.

2. Yes, they're made for that.

3. Cost would be around $100-110 depending on the model.
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1. Ouch. Oh well. Hopefully it is tough enough to withstand all the cardboard, car doors, and trench-digging I can throw at it without needing warranty work ;)
2. Excellent! I will disassemble, clean, and lube!
3. Ouch. I would rather just kick in the additional 30-40 and get a whole new knife!

Lycosa said:
Welcome.
Heed my Emerson advice. Do not sell Emerson knives.
rolf
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Rolf. . . I am going to beat this one to within an inch of its life and then I am going to mail it to you. Then you can Paypal me what you think it is worth at that point.
 
MMAR-
That'll take years but then, you send me that b-itch, and I'll pay you.
:D
 
I've done much the same on my CQC8. A word of advice though - Due to the beefyness of Emersons and the original chisel edge I had to back my back bevel up quite a bit until it performed as well as I prefer. It is one of those knives that perform quite marvellously with a 30 degree back bevel and a 40 degree micro bevel. If you have a Sharpmaker, especially one with the diamond stones, this is a piece of cake to do.
 
Thanks gents.

So, it appears that the PRIMARY grind on this CQC7A is a conventional hollow grind, but just the edge was originally a chisel edge and then reprofiled to a V edge? Am I understanding that correctly? I am sure it will all come clear once I have it in my hand!
 
EmersonREP said:
1. Yes, the warranty is void because of the re-profile.
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I have been thinking about this a little and I am requesting further insight. The entire blade is not a re-grind, the edge has just been re-profiled to a V edge vs the chisel/V-edge originally on it. In essence, the blade edge angle has changed and not much more. Can you give more insight into why the warranty would be voided?

Also, should I be aware of re-profiling other edges to different degrees than factory settings--would this void a warranty as well?

Lastly, should any other part of the knife fail, such as the liner lock, pivot, handle screws, etc, et al--would any of this still be covered? Or, is the entire knife warranty voided?
 
I like the wave and I don't order my Emerson's with it because I plan on using it defensively. The other day I was crouched over holding rope with one hand and I needed my knife to cut it. Thanks to the wave my knife came out of my pocket good to go and I cut the rope all the quicker. No biggie could of just used the thumb studs but I like the wave for reasons like that.
 
MostMenAreRuthless said:
I have been thinking about this a little and I am requesting further insight. The entire blade is not a re-grind, the edge has just been re-profiled to a V edge vs the chisel/V-edge originally on it. In essence, the blade edge angle has changed and not much more. Can you give more insight into why the warranty would be voided?

Also, should I be aware of re-profiling other edges to different degrees than factory settings--would this void a warranty as well?

Lastly, should any other part of the knife fail, such as the liner lock, pivot, handle screws, etc, et al--would any of this still be covered? Or, is the entire knife warranty voided?
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I apologize. I misread your post. If just the edge is ground to a V grind then the warranty should be good. It's also up to the discretion of the repair person. It's a case by case basis as every knife is different. When the blade is completely re-profiled then it's void. Everything else is totally covered still.

ER
 
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EmersonREP said:
I apologize. I misread your post. If just the edge is ground to a V grind then the warranty should be good. It's also up to the discretion of the repair person. It's a case by case basis as every knife is different. When the blade is completely re-profiled then it's void. Everything else is totally covered still.



ER
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Cool... Thanks for the clarification!
 
I am Joining the Emerson Ranks
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Looks like a really nice little knife my friend. Glad to see your joining the Emerson ranks. Some of the finest men throughout history have joined the Emerson ranks so your in good company and endued with great power that requires great responsibility...No, just kidding. I have no idea about any of that.
 
903lew said:
Due to the beefyness of Emersons and the original chisel edge I had to back my back bevel up quite a bit until it performed as well as I prefer. It is one of those knives that perform quite marvelously with a 30 degree back bevel and a 40 degree micro bevel.
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I've been thinking about this for a long time but have hesitated because of potential warranty issues.

EmersonREP said:
I apologize. I misread your post. If just the edge is ground to a V grind then the warranty should be good. It's also up to the discretion of the repair person. It's a case by case basis as every knife is different. When the blade is completely re-profiled then it's void. Everything else is totally covered still.

ER
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ER, this is good info.
I think I'm going to venture out with the edges (edge only) of my Emerson knives. EKI has been good to me so far.
 
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