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I am pretty new to making my own knives but I am looking for a place to do cryo treating for me. I cant seem to find anyone around here that does it and dont mind shipping. So any good place with good pricing would be great. Thanks
 
Try looking in the Shoptalk section of the Knifemakers discussion sub-forum..... :)
 
I tried this question in the general section with no luck. AnywayI am looking for a good place to send my knives to for cryo treating. Had no luck locally. I am pretty new to making knives on my own. thanks
 
I know Peter's Heat Treat does Cryo. I have sent many blades there for heat treating and they cryoed every one. Im sure there are other places that someone will chime in with. Best of luck.
 
Cryo should be done as part oif the H/T,if you heattreated them then sent them to some one for just cryo you would lose most of the advantages of doing cryo.What type steel are you useing and how do you H/T.Also a location for you would help with figureing out who to send them to.
Stan
 
I am doing my own differential heat treating. I have my own oven. I live near Detroit. I could ship a bunch of blades in a flat rate box anywhere in the US so not sure if location matters. I dont know why it would matter if the cryo was not done at the same time as the heat treating "tell me why I am new to this". thanks
 
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MakerX said:
I am doing my own differential heat treating. I have my own oven. I live near Detroit. I could ship a bunch of blades in a flat rate box anywhere in the US so not sure if location matters. I dont know why it would matter if the cryo was not done at the same time as the heat treating "tell me why I am new to this". thanks
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What steel type and what is your HT method?
 
Stan is right its not going to help much if not done as part of the quench. Simply put
and without getting into some sort of a flame war-RA retained austenite,may never be
converted to martensite if not part of the quench. Have you read the stickies?
Ken.
 
Ken is correct,must be done as part of the quench to be really effective.Also if you are useing simple carbon steels,ie 1084.1095,and such cryo really has no useful benifits.

Stan
 
Pretty anxious for info..... double threads same question, maybe just mix some dry-ice and mineral spirits, or throw it in the freezer??
Get some books to read up on!
Good luck, be patient.
 
well, the reason for the double post is because i got no reply in the general section except for someone telling me to post my question in this section. I am using 8670 steel. I dont know if there are benifits of doing cryo on this steel. Now from what i understand deep cryo has to do with the tempering process. I could do my own hardening then send the knives to a HT place n they could do the tempering and cryo. Correct me if I am wrong.
 
MakerX said:
I could do my own hardening then send the knives to a HT place n they could do the tempering and cryo. Correct me if I am wrong.
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SBuzek said:
Cryo should be done as part oif the H/T,if you heattreated them then sent them to some one for just cryo you would lose most of the advantages of doing cryo.What type steel are you useing and how do you H/T.Also a location for you would help with figureing out who to send them to.
Stan
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kc custom said:
Stan is right its not going to help much if not done as part of the quench. Simply put
and without getting into some sort of a flame war-RA retained austenite,may never be
converted to martensite if not part of the quench. Have you read the stickies?
Ken.
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I believe you already have been corrected. Try reading the answers you just asked to be given before posting more on a topic.

Is this Nick Wheeler? :D
 
8670 will not be improved by cryo,also if you did the hardening then sent it for cryo without tempering you have the risk of the steel forming micro fractures and alot of the retained austinite will stabilize while it is in shipping,so the cryo would not so you any good.
When i do my H/T I do not let the steel rest,straight from oven to quench plates,as soon as I reach room temp they go into cryo,as they come out of cryo when they reach room temp.they go into temper.It is all one process to get the best results.
Stan
 
SBuzek said:
8670 will not be improved by cryo,also if you did the hardening then sent it for cryo without tempering you have the risk of the steel forming micro fractures and alot of the retained austinite will stabilize while it is in shipping,so the cryo would not so you any good.
When i do my H/T I do not let the steel rest,straight from oven to quench plates,as soon as I reach room temp they go into cryo,as they come out of cryo when they reach room temp.they go into temper.It is all one process to get the best results.
Stan
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Thanks this helps.
 
Nice knife.Since the image is hosted off site you can direct link it here and make it appear in your post.
Stan
 
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