i built my forge

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so im dedicating this forge the Boelter forge as it is on my grandparents land and it is their last name, its primative but should do just fine.

its made from an old water pressure tank that was already cut in half, so i cut it in half again then cut it 8inches from the top to create a top sleeve and a bottom sleeve. at the bottom it is offset so that the top is recessed farther than the bottom. on the half that has the bottom there is a PVC tube loops underneath and stick up out of the ground that i will hook up a blower vac or a leaf blower to. dont know which would work best, but here it is, im rather happy with it, considering it was all made from trash :)

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I don't know much about coal forges but it looks good so far. Let's see some pounded metal now. :)
 
DO NOT USE THAT FORGE!!!!!!!!! The galvanizing on the angle iron will burn off and give some nasty zinc fumes that will not be good for your health! Find an alternative, it is better to have to wait a little longer than to get sick!
 
DO NOT USE THAT FORGE!!!!!!!!! The galvanizing on the angle iron will burn off and give some nasty zinc fumes that will not be good for your health! Find an alternative, it is better to have to wait a little longer than to get sick!

Yes i'm with sam on this one, it can make you sick. not somthing i would want to mess around with. but if you do then start it up and let it burn with you not around for awhile till all the zink is burned off. online you will find lots of info about it, some say its not supper bad like what i quoted below. but some say it can cause heavy metal posioning which may lead to death. right now there really is not a lot known about Galvanized Poisoning but the fact of the matter is that no matter what its not good for you.
Stay away from the white smoke :D

When zinc is raised to a high temperature (at or above its boiling point around 900C), it burns and forms zinc oxide smoke. Like any kind of smoke, zinc oxide will irritate the lungs, leading to difficulty breathing: This is not a dangerous situation and it clears up immediately when you move away from the source of the fumes. People exposed to high concentrations of zinc oxide over a prolonged period of time can also develop a condition known as the "zinc chills", "metal fume fever", "brass-founders ague", or a number of other colorful terms. This involves fever, tremors, and other unpleasant symptoms.
 
when i first started on the forums i was going to use some galvanized pipe and guys told me not to. i listened! some one said at the time that there had been a maker died from using galvanized. i dont know if this was true or not but it made me rethink.... why take the chance? i'm sure someone on here will chime in and tell you it's not a big deal nothing will happen, they've been using it for years etc. but again why risk it?

good luck, be safe

jake
 
OK, we have this pop up about once a month.

Metal Fume Fever is the condition you get from breathing zinc oxide fumes by burning/welding on/heating galvanized metal. It is a flu like feeling. Red itchy eyes, nausea, runny nose, etc. It is not fatal. Drinking milk, and getting fresh air and a good nights sleep are the treatment.

Zinc Poisoning is an entirely different condition, and is of concern with animals ( especially birds) but rare in humans.It is caused by absorption of zinc through food and skin contact. In its most severe case, it causes liver and kidney failure.

Zinc Oxide is a stable compound of zinc, and is not absorbable through the skin......or all the life guards would be dead. Like any fine dust ( and smoke), breathing zinc oxide should be avoided.

Heavy Metals is a poorly and improperly used term ( and not actually a medical term), that refers to any metal that is....well...heavy. Problem is that all the "heavy Metals" are not heavy....and all are not toxic ( the medical term is Toxic Metals). Some heavy metals are required for health. Zinc is one of these, Iron is another. Others ,like lead, mercury, cadmium, and many of the radioactive metals, are toxic, and can lead to death. The ones that are of a worry are the ones stored in the blood and tissues that slowly disable the ability of your blood and nerves to work properly. Zinc is not one of these.

Paw Paw died of severe pneumonia caused by working in a closed shop for hours with heavy smoke. The presence of the zinc fumes surely did him no good, but it is misleading/wrong to say he died of zinc poisoning. His death was sad, but it probably was avoidable.

We all need to avoid exposure to dust and smoke, but working safely and intelligently is the best way to do that....not fear mongering.

Wear filtration - a good P100 cartridge filter mask or hood will avoid 99% of all metal/wood working problems.
Have good fresh air flow in and out of the shop.
Vent exhaust gasses. Even better run forges outside when possible.
Remove dust at the source -vacuum systems or other dust collection is almost a must for safe shop work. At the very least, vacuum up the work area after ( and during) dirty work.
If feeling woozy, take a break.
If feeling sick ,knock off for the night. Tell someone you don't feel well and were working in the shop.
If ill, see a doctor! Tell him what you do for a hobby, and what metals and woods you have been using. (BTW, a doctor can confuse things, like metal fume fever/heavy metal poisoning, too.)

TrKaylor,
If you use the forge ,note which way the wind is blowing. Build a fire in it and run it for a good while with a medium air flow ( just enough to keep the coals hot, but not enough to burn up the forge) and stay down wind. Let it die down and cool off, and wire brush the metal and racks. That should take care of the zinc. When using the forge, it is always wise to stay down-wind anyway. One suggestion is to replace the PVC with some iron pipe.....and it can be galvanized.

Stacy
 
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While what Stacy says is true, I simply tend to avoid burning things around galvanized steel. It might not kill me, but it sure isn't good for me. There are enough things in this hobby that aren't good for me, and while no one of them is likely to do me in, the combination of them sure won't make the twilight years of my life any fun at all. I'd like to stick around and make a lot more knives, so I play it safe.

That said, to each their own. I think Stacy meant to tell you stand UP-wind of the forge while it's running though ;)

PawPaw's death was tragic. It's true that he had a lung condition prior to his death, but in the end it was the yellow smoke that triggered the last bout of pneumonia he ever had. The story as I heard it was that somebody else chucked a bunch of galvanized pipe sections into the forge and after he cleared the shop PawPaw went back in to try and shut it down. I don't know how true it is, and frankly I'll take it as a strong warning and keep my shop as free of zinc coated stuff as I can.

-d
 
holy crap i walk away for one day then all the advice pours in. so you know
i HAVE NOT fired it up yet, that angle iron can be taken out its on on the top.
thankyou for the advice, ill replace it with something a little....stronger and not so goona kill me material.

PS anyone near the western slope of CO the Grandjunction/Delta area i would like to come by some time and see someone work on something. i love to watch people work on these things and i learn pretty quick by watching. thankyou all!!
 
Thanks for the note deker. I had it down in one place and up in another. I edited to correct.
Stacy
 
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