I decided to buy a Becker instead

About your pants hanging down,

(1) you will be fashionable like the youth of today

(2) you will have a Kabar/ Becker folder

I would suggest suspenders also.

Excellent points, TiNi, except I don't want to be fashionable like today's youth. Fashionable, for me, was like 40 years ago . . . if then. I'm more of a "if it's comfortable, wear it" kind of guy.

I would like to be able to carry the Becker/KA-BAR folder, though. Might need the suspenders just for that, no matter which pants I wore.
 
Big pants or no - if they produce that folding Becker you have been angling for, I will be buying one. Honestly I have what seems to me to be the perfect blade trio...

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... but I'd definitely buy a Becker folder.
 
I had been thinking about maybe getting a Randall but couldn't see paying that much for a knife. I then thought about the Cold Steel or Blackjack Randall knockoffs. The more I read, the more I decided that a Becker was the way to go. Ended up with a BK-2 & a BK-7 and still had money left over.

The Becker knives are great but a BlackJack #1-7 is on a different level of finish.
 
you know, i been thinkin'. (there's your open door DB) we've all been telling maxnharry he made a great choice in buying a 2 and a 7 instead of a Randall, and he did. and not only for the knife. if you ever have a problem with them, KA-BAR will fix you up. IMHO their service is second to none. I have experienced it personally. (I have a 2 and a 7 myself) but i also have a Randall on order, and I expect the fit and finish will be perfect. and, if you call Randall you will probably get to speak with Gary Randall, who gave me personal advice on options and balance. still, i wonder how the Randall forum would reply to this thread. probably not too kindly. Randall Made knives are VERY well made, and you pay for that. and unless you are active military, you wait for it too! unless you buy from someone who does nothing but order the maximum number of Randalls to turn a profit on them. Sharks.

Still, a Randall may well be in your future one day. I intend to use mine when it gets here. and the Blackjack line, some are quite nice. I have six of the older ones and they are very well constructed and well within reach for most people. And I also have my first RAT on the way, and rc-4. (I couldn't wait any longer for a tweener) (sorry ethan and paul). But i'll still get one when available. and a magnum camp, which will become the primary kitchen knife.

yes, there is a point to be made here, and i'm finally getting to it. These are all VERY nice blades, and very well built. i hear complaints every now and again about the grind being a tad off on a Becker. or of being able to slide a dollar bill between the scale and tang. my advice, unless it is severe, send me your dollar and forget it. The Becker line are good quality knives. And for the price (a BK-2 is currently $56.41 shipped to your door!), you just can't beat that for value. BZ KA-BAR (good job). Add to that their customer care and it is truly a winning combination.

so, maxnharry, once again, good job. but do not rule out the others as outstanding knives in their own right. but when price is factored in, wow. hands down, KA-BAR Becker has my vote.

Greg
 
The Becker knives are great but a BlackJack #1-7 is on a different level of finish.

Exactly what I am saying. Each has their own market and each is outstanding in it's own right.

Now, my question: how would the BK-7 perform head to head with a Blackjack 1-7 or a Randall model 16? now THAT would be interesting.

FWIW
 
you know, i been thinkin'. (there's your open door DB) we've all been telling maxnharry he made a great choice in buying a 2 and a 7 instead of a Randall, and he did. and not only for the knife. if you ever have a problem with them, KA-BAR will fix you up. IMHO their service is second to none. I have experienced it personally. (I have a 2 and a 7 myself) but i also have a Randall on order, and I expect the fit and finish will be perfect. and, if you call Randall you will probably get to speak with Gary Randall, who gave me personal advice on options and balance. still, i wonder how the Randall forum would reply to this thread. probably not too kindly. Randall Made knives are VERY well made, and you pay for that. and unless you are active military, you wait for it too! unless you buy from someone who does nothing but order the maximum number of Randalls to turn a profit on them. Sharks.

Still, a Randall may well be in your future one day. I intend to use mine when it gets here. and the Blackjack line, some are quite nice. I have six of the older ones and they are very well constructed and well within reach for most people. And I also have my first RAT on the way, and rc-4. (I couldn't wait any longer for a tweener) (sorry ethan and paul). But i'll still get one when available. and a magnum camp, which will become the primary kitchen knife.

yes, there is a point to be made here, and i'm finally getting to it. These are all VERY nice blades, and very well built. i hear complaints every now and again about the grind being a tad off on a Becker. or of being able to slide a dollar bill between the scale and tang. my advice, unless it is severe, send me your dollar and forget it. The Becker line are good quality knives. And for the price (a BK-2 is currently $56.41 shipped to your door!), you just can't beat that for value. BZ KA-BAR (good job). Add to that their customer care and it is truly a winning combination.

so, maxnharry, once again, good job. but do not rule out the others as outstanding knives in their own right. but when price is factored in, wow. hands down, KA-BAR Becker has my vote.

Greg

Everyone, thanks for the warm welcome. I still think Randall makes FANTASTIC knives, I just don't want to pay that much and honestly would spend too much time thinking about losing it or someone "borrowing" it from me. The Beckers seem to represent the perfect price/value for a knife that I would use alot and not worry about losing or breaking.
 
Big pants or no - if they produce that folding Becker you have been angling for, I will be buying one. Honestly I have what seems to me to be the perfect blade trio...

IMG00620-20100730-2045.jpg


... but I'd definitely buy a Becker folder.

So say we all. I'm not the only one who wants the Becker folder, you know.:D:D
 
Well, with how nice you are to me being I am an engineer.
um...
yup! and enjoyed it immensely! :D

Sheesh . . . engineers — what ya gonna do?

You know, I think there are twelve-step programs for that. The first step is to admit that you're powerless over math, and that your life has become unmanageable. Then, when you get the urge to design something, you call someone to help you overcome the urge.*

We're here for ya, buddy. Help is available; you just have to take the first step.






*Following this advice may get you fired, and you'll starve to death.
 
you know, i been thinkin'. (there's your open door DB) we've all been telling maxnharry he made a great choice in buying a 2 and a 7 instead of a Randall, and he did. and not only for the knife. if you ever have a problem with them, KA-BAR will fix you up. IMHO their service is second to none. I have experienced it personally. (I have a 2 and a 7 myself) but i also have a Randall on order, and I expect the fit and finish will be perfect. and, if you call Randall you will probably get to speak with Gary Randall, who gave me personal advice on options and balance. still, i wonder how the Randall forum would reply to this thread. probably not too kindly. Randall Made knives are VERY well made, and you pay for that. and unless you are active military, you wait for it too! unless you buy from someone who does nothing but order the maximum number of Randalls to turn a profit on them. Sharks.

Still, a Randall may well be in your future one day. I intend to use mine when it gets here. and the Blackjack line, some are quite nice. I have six of the older ones and they are very well constructed and well within reach for most people. And I also have my first RAT on the way, and rc-4. (I couldn't wait any longer for a tweener) (sorry ethan and paul). But i'll still get one when available. and a magnum camp, which will become the primary kitchen knife.

yes, there is a point to be made here, and i'm finally getting to it. These are all VERY nice blades, and very well built. i hear complaints every now and again about the grind being a tad off on a Becker. or of being able to slide a dollar bill between the scale and tang. my advice, unless it is severe, send me your dollar and forget it. The Becker line are good quality knives. And for the price (a BK-2 is currently $56.41 shipped to your door!), you just can't beat that for value. BZ KA-BAR (good job). Add to that their customer care and it is truly a winning combination.

so, maxnharry, once again, good job. but do not rule out the others as outstanding knives in their own right. but when price is factored in, wow. hands down, KA-BAR Becker has my vote.

Greg

There are a number of very nice knives on the market that have excellent fit and finish — like the Randalls — and those who can afford them should give them a try. Actually, I was all fired up to get a Randall when I was in the Marine Corps, but one of my NCO's talked me out of it (It ain't gonna cut no better than yer KA-BAR, LT, and you'd just lose it, anyway). He was right, of course, so I didn't get one. I've always wanted one though; I just can't afford one. They truly are nice knives.

But, for me, it really does come down to the fact that they won't cut any better, or last any longer, than a Becker, and they costs two to ten times as much — or more. I like some of the high end knives for what they are, but IMHO, they're not for using (unless you're filthy rich), they're just for owning. Like art, they should be appreciated for what they are, but what they are is not down-and-dirty, get the job done, working knives. Yeah, they'll probably do it, but at what price? I'd be too afraid of scratching one to ever actually use it. In other words, I see them as art/collectible knives, not field knives. Don't misunderstand me: I'm not saying that there aren't some mighty fine knives out there that I'd love to own, simply because they're superb examples of the knifemaker's art; there are. I'm just saying that, for a working knife, I'll take a Becker/KA-BAR.

You've all seen Ethan's line "Knives that work for a living." Well, that pretty well sums it up for me: good, honest working knives at a good, honest price, backed by truly outstanding customer service. Knives I can rely on, and never worry about them letting me down. What more could I ask?

Man, I hated to read your line about the Tweeners, Greg. I can't help but wonder how many other people who waited for the Tweeners went out and bought something else when they couldn't get them? I won't go on about that.

Oh, and now that I've rambled on, congratulations on your new Beckers, maxnharry.
 
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Exactly what I am saying. Each has their own market and each is outstanding in it's own right.

Now, my question: how would the BK-7 perform head to head with a Blackjack 1-7 or a Randall model 16? now THAT would be interesting.

FWIW

It certainly would.
 
Exactly what I am saying. Each has their own market and each is outstanding in it's own right.

Now, my question: how would the BK-7 perform head to head with a Blackjack 1-7 or a Randall model 16? now THAT would be interesting.

FWIW
having owned both, yes - the BK7 would show very well in a HtH with a Blackjack 1-7. (mine was a Camillus BK7 & Effingham 1-7) I've NEVER been able to afford a Randall, even when I was on active duty.
the Blackjack was gorgeous, but I'd trust the BK7 more in a hard use situation, if only because there's so much more "meat" in the handle, especially at the blade/tang junction. (I like full tang knives for just this reason)
 
This doesn't have to be an adversarial kind of thing. Comparing Randalls to Beckers is somewhat akin to comparing a Ford Mustang to a Maserati. They are both great items with specific purposes (which can, arguably, overlap), but built with a different market in mind.

After topping out with a SBT, I have been buying more low-to-mid knives... why? That's my market. I want to spend a certain amount and get a certain use out of the knife. Beckers fit that mold perfectly. So do a few other brands (although not as well).

Doesn't make them better or worse than Randalls or a Skookum or a BRKT... just makes them the appropriate tool at the right price!
 
This doesn't have to be an adversarial kind of thing. Comparing Randalls to Beckers is somewhat akin to comparing a Ford Mustang to a Maserati. They are both great items with specific purposes (which can, arguably, overlap), but built with a different market in mind.

After topping out with a SBT, I have been buying more low-to-mid knives... why? That's my market. I want to spend a certain amount and get a certain use out of the knife. Beckers fit that mold perfectly. So do a few other brands (although not as well).

Doesn't make them better or worse than Randalls or a Skookum or a BRKT... just makes them the appropriate tool at the right price!

Well, yeah, of course. I don't think anyone is putting down Randall, Blackjack, or any other fine knife.

As for me, I simply pointed out that, while I'd love to own some of those knives, they're not for me. Beckers meet all my criteria for a good working knife — period. My preference for Beckers doesn't in any way lessen the worth of any other brand, it's just a personal choice.
 
wasn't trying to sound adversarial - it's more a question of desgned function to me.
The Becker is designed to be primarily a field/utility knife that can be used in a combat role.
The 1-7 (or 1-6) to me is primarily a slicer/fighter that can be used for GP tasks.
 
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