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Why, oh why, all the comments and, to me, wasted verbage about gun and knife grips, blade shapes, firearm calibers, and on and on...?

As humans, we are, above all, adaptable! If the grip of a gun or knife doesn't fit, so what? Adapt or adjust your grip. Why spend megabucks searching for that (never to be found) perfect knife or gun that you will never find?

A gun is a device that launches bullets and a knife is a simple 'machine' consisting of a piece of sharp metal combined with some kind of handle so you can cut, carve, stab, or whatever. Why agonize about blade shapes, types of steel, handles, and on an on? If that piece of metal on a stick holds an edge for a reasonable amount of time to enable carving, skinning, etc., why endlessly agonize about make, model, style, and on and on?

In a lot of years on this planet I have yet to find a knife or gun I couldn't use when I really need to use it. I quit worrying about grips, handles, and all that years ago. Please face it, folks, a knife is a piece of sharp metal on a stick and any gun is a metal tube that launches bullets propelled by chemicals or compressed air or gas. Where you go from there is solely up to you and practice.....
 
We're also human which means we are victims to desire, and as always a love of perfection

Get over it
 
I know what you mean to some extent. I don't worry too much about tools on which I use here and there, wrenches, hammer, screw drivers. If I were a mechanic, I'd think more about those tools.

I had my Ontario 12" machete fly out of my hand once, I had to duck and cover. I started to sand the handle down so it had a better fit for my hand. As it was, it was dangerous.
At the same time, I have some interest in making knives. So, I take some serious consideration into shaping my new handle. When I'm breaking down fallen limbs on the property, I need a decent grip, not something that goes flying out of my hand.

Do you have a problem with fine craftsmanship, or just people talking about those details? You know this is a knife forum, what are we supposed to talk about?
 
Old,

Sorry friend, but this is what humans do. Because we have the ability to use are brains we like to make things easier, study them to refine the tools we have. If all we had to do was adapt, im sure we would still be knapping stone.
 
Wow, cranky today? Sure we can make just about anything work (sharp rock anyone?) but why not be comfortable and/or more efficient and effective with your tools? Do you really not care how your knives and guns fit and feel in your hands, or are you just wanting some discussion on the subject?

I was lucky enough when I was looking for a shotgun to be told by an old-timer to get the one that worked best for me. Turned out to be good advice- I went to a gun show where you could shoot and right off the bat- brand A = 8 out of 10 hits on moving clays, brand B = 2 out of 10. I guess, eventually I would have gotten better with brand B, but I doubt it would ever work as well for me as brand A.
 
Well I guess its why you more cars than a Ford. Or why you have different kinds of flowers, or different kinds of paper, or carpet, and soda pop I mean why do we have pepsi and coke and grape crush? And of course why do we have different opinions won't just one work for all of us.
 
This site is dedicated to collectors and enthusiats, by defintion we all have more then a purely utilitarian interest in knives.

n2s
 
Old CW4 said:
Why, oh why, all the comments and, to me, wasted verbage about gun and knife grips, blade shapes, firearm calibers, and on and on...?

As humans, we are, above all, adaptable! If the grip of a gun or knife doesn't fit, so what? Adapt or adjust your grip. Why spend megabucks searching for that (never to be found) perfect knife or gun that you will never find?

A gun is a device that launches bullets and a knife is a simple 'machine' consisting of a piece of sharp metal combined with some kind of handle so you can cut, carve, stab, or whatever. Why agonize about blade shapes, types of steel, handles, and on an on? If that piece of metal on a stick holds an edge for a reasonable amount of time to enable carving, skinning, etc., why endlessly agonize about make, model, style, and on and on?

In a lot of years on this planet I have yet to find a knife or gun I couldn't use when I really need to use it. I quit worrying about grips, handles, and all that years ago. Please face it, folks, a knife is a piece of sharp metal on a stick and any gun is a metal tube that launches bullets propelled by chemicals or compressed air or gas. Where you go from there is solely up to you and practice.....
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sounds boring to me.....
 
If you think we're picky about such devices, check out the various guitar forums....
 
Try applying that philosophy to shoes...one size fits all?
Littlefoot over there can stuff his shoes with newspaper, Bigfoot over there can cut holes in the front for his toes to stick out...I don't think so.

I have owned a particular hunting rifle since 1980. When I shoulder it the motion and fit is a glorious experience. Other rifles have come and gone. I adapted to them and they were accurate, but they just didn't have that 'magic'.

One size doesn't fit all. And it shouldn't be made to do so.
 
One size fits all?

I don't think so.

Like 99% of the collectors and enthusiasts on this forum, I appreciate good design, functionality, ease of use and maintenance. To be sure a sharpened rock will skin a rabbit, but a well made skinning knife will do it so much better, quicker and neater.

The pursuit of perfection is built into most of us, and it is what keeps us striving in all human endeavour.

Some may be happy to sit back and reflect on the way things used to be and be happy with yesterday's tools and equipment, and that is fine, but it doesn't mean that everyone else is wrong headed for looking to the future with all its innovations and improvements.
 
Chief,

Simply put, a $1 walmart knife will only cut once or twice, and good knife with good steel will cut forever. A 2 dollar pistol will most likely not fire when you need it, but a $1500 Colt will. Basically, you get what you pay for and when it comes to protecting my life and my family, my family deserves the best. I will not sacrifice safety for money.
 
If there were only one brand of knife, gun, car, shoe, etc., people would adapt and use it and be just fine. But we live in a world in which there are more options than we need, so it is possible, if not necessary, to compare options and select one based on user selected criteria. You see some people on various forums asking questions to select the best item for their needs, and then you never see them again. Others will spend 5 years and 900 posts discussing them. What for? I guess it's a hobby or something. Maybe some people just like forums and knives, guns, flashlights, pens, watches, cars, typewriters, etc., are just the incidental topics that anchor said forums.
 
Old CW4 said:
Why, oh why, all the comments and, to me, wasted verbage about gun and knife grips, blade shapes, firearm calibers, and on and on...?

As humans, we are, above all, adaptable! If the grip of a gun or knife doesn't fit, so what? Adapt or adjust your grip. Why spend megabucks searching for that (never to be found) perfect knife or gun that you will never find?

A gun is a device that launches bullets and a knife is a simple 'machine' consisting of a piece of sharp metal combined with some kind of handle so you can cut, carve, stab, or whatever. Why agonize about blade shapes, types of steel, handles, and on an on? If that piece of metal on a stick holds an edge for a reasonable amount of time to enable carving, skinning, etc., why endlessly agonize about make, model, style, and on and on?

In a lot of years on this planet I have yet to find a knife or gun I couldn't use when I really need to use it. I quit worrying about grips, handles, and all that years ago. Please face it, folks, a knife is a piece of sharp metal on a stick and any gun is a metal tube that launches bullets propelled by chemicals or compressed air or gas. Where you go from there is solely up to you and practice.....
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Where'd be the fun in that?

All the caliber and knife wars are a just a cover anyway. We do that stuff because our wives won't let us spend our money on hookers and booze and out of frustration we've turned to guns, knives, watches, cameras, guitars (a tip of the hat to mwerner), motorcycles, Jeeps, power tools...well, you get the idea.

As modern men we don't have to work all day, every day, daylight to dark just to feed ourselves and our families, we aren't constantly on the move following whatever herd animal our life and culture is based around, and consequently we have all this pesky free time on our hands. Sure, we could all go 'off the grid' and back to nature, but then who'd run the powerplants and build the cars and buildings and discover new technology and all the other things we've accomplished since we came out of the cave?

We may be headed that way, regardless. I read a news report today that company executives are working longer hours, while laborers are getting less overtime and in some cases are reduced to part-time status. Meaning, that to maintain the same life style the worker is going to have to get two or more part time jobs, effectively making him work from daylight to dark just to maintain the status quo. When that happens, the caliber and knife wars will stop, because there will be no one with enough energy (or time) to get on the 'net and have 'em.

So let us enjoy ourselves while we can, huh. If you don't care to play, that's ok, we won't hold it against you. Just don't bust our chops about it, it's all the life we have.
 
Well, good news. I found Old CW4's gear. :D

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