I dunno how to think about it...

I think thats a very bad idea on his part.

he would have to get jerry's permission, and then not drill out the talon hole to make it okay in my book. with it that close, he could sell it as a busse, and there in lies the problem.
 
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I just sent an email to jerry, don't know if he'll read it any time soon, but for the record it has been pointed out to him.
 
Last Visible Canary said:
I just sent an email to jerry, don't know if he'll read it any time soon, but for the record it has been pointed out to him.
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Good... I was about to do the same.

Not sure how I feel about a fake BATAC running around out there. :grumpy:
I believe Jerry has made some knives out of Vascowear before,
but it is Jerry's heat treat that makes it a Busse.

I'd like to know what happens with this one.

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I applaud his ... hmm, creativity is the wrong word, since he's making a clone ... his dedication and effort, anyway. If he's just making a one-off for himself, it'd be interesting to see how his interpretation could even compare to the original. It doesn't look like his intent is to start selling Busse clones.

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
 
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It's a nice looking bad idea. I hope this is a harmless form of flattery. If not Jerry will own him.
 
Lil' Foo said:
Good... I was about to do the same.

Not sure how I feel about a fake BATAC running around out there. :grumpy:
I believe Jerry has made some knives out of Vascowear before,
but it is Jerry's heat treat that makes it a Busse.

I'd like to know what happens with this one.

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if it was my design, I'd permit it as long as something could be done to absolutely ensure there was no mix up, and that the design never went into further production. a deeply engraved "NOT-BUSSE" on the flats might be enough, but getting rid of the talon hole and modifying the handle shape a bit would certain be better.

I recall the set of active duty esque blades that were made by a user named mark a while ago. there were identical to the active duties, just with larger blades and handles. he asked jerry for an okay before doing it, and it's obvious that busse has never made a model like that, so It's okay in my book.
 
Disaster Monkey said:
I applaud his ... hmm, creativity is the wrong word, since he's making a clone ... his dedication and effort, anyway. If he's just making a one-of for himself, it'd be interesting to see how his interpretation could even compare to the original. It doesn't look like his intent is to start selling Busse clones.

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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Don't get me wrong... I think he's doing a great job with it.

I just don't think he SHOULD be doing it.

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I saw this a couple of days ago but didn't want to say anything. I presume that the new 'clone' will be used to test out mods or tweaks to the blade shape, rather than experiment with the original.

I'm sure this experiment is done with integrity and honesty and who knows edge-maker may even have emailed Jerry to ask his permission. Only time will tell. Might be a dangerous precedent to set though allowing people to clone Busses to experiment on, for every 100 decent guys there's bound to be one bad apple.
 
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I think thats a very bad idea on his part.

he would have to get jerry's permission, and then not drill out the talon hole to make it okay in my book. with it that close, he could sell it as a busse, and there in lies the problem.
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Yep, pretty much how I see it. The guy has skills, which makes it even worse, looks like it could pass as a user Batac with some work.
 
Ya that's um... not cool with out first getting the blessing of the owner of the design... IMO... And if he gets Boss Hogs blessing then all is good. Because he obviously has skills.
 
I would keep it to myself, not post it on the internet,, and definitly stamp it, very visible,,,, like DESIGN DEMO.... NOT BUSSE...material i.d.... and makers mark
 
Good point Horton. I think a member here did something similar a while back with an SFNO. Though I think he made a smaller version. Details are sketchy. Now if it's kept for ones self then I see no problem with it. However selling a copy of someone elses design is where I see the problem.
 
yep, as an "experiment" I see a few ways:
- he is just so satisfied with the ergos of the BATAC, that he's trying to duplicate it...not really creative.
- he is trying to make the "same" knife from a better(:confused::eek::eek:)steel...as a knifemaker he should know that INFI is about the spec. heat treat...
- he's got no money for another BATAC, and he's creating a "beater":confused:

I think if he would do it in his way - he should tweak the forms a bit, not recreating the same form.
...or he is trying to prove that he makes a better knife, or what?!

I would like to think as RoyalM, that it's a honest experiment, just somehow I find it a bit false, or a bit naive, at least...whatever.
Anyway, I didn't want to stir the pot(is this a right expression?...) just to have your opinions about it.
 
I would never sell anything like that! but companies make replicas of the competition with alternate materials for testing.. but, that stuff should be kept under wraps.. this guy posting on internet, making one off's by Hand!!!!...... is no threat to Busse... and is harmless.. if I made a BATAC copy with nothing but a bandsaw, drill press and a file.. it would cost someone like $1000 in mod labor....... lol
 
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Anyway, I didn't want to stir the pot(is this a right expression?...) just to have your opinions about it.
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You used the phrase properly :) I get why he's doing it, he wants a vascowear badger attack. I want a rc67 1095 choiless boney active duty with a ground down handle spine. I think anyone who likes steel and understands that certain steels provide certain benefits over infi will have some interest in seeing a good design used in a different steel. He just shouldn't have drilled out the talon hole.

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I don't think he is breaking any laws unless he tries to sell it.
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I think it's safer to say "if it ever leaves his hands" regardless of how. if I found that knife, I would assume it was a busse, and if I sold it I would sell it as a busse, and if I broke it I would seek out busse as the maker. I would also post any user experiences with it (unsharpenability, breakage) here stating the knife was a busse. no one would be able to say different until jerry got it in his hands and could say otherwise. theres a big downward spiral of things that could happen with that kind of thing.
 
it should be treated like my friends USAS 12 shotgun... they classified it as a destructive device.. so if it leaves his hands... it must be given to the ATF.. for destruction.. that's a no brainer!! keep it!!
 
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