I finally made it to the range. Now to clean or not to clean?

dttomcat

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So 2 1/2 mos. after buying my latest firearm ( A CZ 452 UL in .22LR) I finally got a chance to shoot it. Me and a buddy probably put about 100 or so rounds of Winchester Bulk through it. It performed flawlessly. So I seem to remember some conflicting info on cleaning .22LR long guns. On a different note my SIG P229 jammed after about 600-800 rounds since I bought it. .40 mostly Winchester white box. The problem seems to be a fouled magazine. It came with two but I had only ever used the one. It turns out that these Sig magazines can be disassembled and cleaned and I never knew that until a friendly range officer showed me how in under 2 minutes. Anyway I switched to the new unused magazine in the case and it worked fine again. Now I guess I gotta start cleaning my magazines. So should I clean the CZ or not? Thanks.

ETA: I found the discussion I was looking for. In case anyone wants to add to the discussion here it is.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=820186&highlight=22lr
 
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I clean my 10/22 when it starts jamming.

On my bolt .22s, I clean it when I see alot of lead on the crown.
 
.22's should be sparingly cleaned----generally when the action gets sticky or when accuracy falls off should be enough.

The same doesn't hold true for centerfires.
 
Depends on the rounds you use. Some are more "gunky" than others.

It doesn't hurt to clean if you use something that won't scratch the barrel.
 
I haven't cleaned my CZ yet. I think I have at least 600 of Federal rounds through it so far, I don't know about the previous owner. It's still smooth as butter and at least as accurate as I am.
 
yes, i also clean my guns after every use. i don't see the point not to, and it doesn't take very long.

for example, in the time it takes to type up a post like this, and then refer back to it for responses, one could probably field strip a glock pistol and wipe down the internals with an oily rag. it may not be a full, detail job, but at least it's something and it prevents all that carbon from gunking and hardening in there.

that's why i don't get it when people say things like, "i never have to clean my glock." I think, why not? to do it right, it literally takes 5 minutes.



i know rifles aren't quite the same, but i still ask, why not? you invested in a rifle so and there's no harm in clearing out some burnt carbon. i have a ruger 10/22 that is easy to disassemble, i'd imagine this CZ 452 is not dissimilar. if you are worried about wearing out parts prematurely, scrub the barrel with just a cotton swab and solvent/lubricant. maybe just a few passes. wipe the bolt and receiver down with an oily rag. reassemble. 10 minutes? you can't go wrong.
 
Hard to believe that wiping down parts and running a brush through the barrel would wear anything.If it does I would think that 500 rds would be all done for the gun.
 
I always clean my gun after going to the range, but I’m sure that is a skipped cleaning it one or twice it would still fire. Cleaning my gun after use is a habit I got from my time in the military. Better safe than sorry.

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Ho hohohohoho.:):)

Don't ever clean the bore, brush out the gunk or lubricate the working parts.
It will last forever. CZ's are made of Kryptonite or something that never needs maintenance.

Sheesh.

Sometimes I wonder who started this rumour that .22 rifles never need cleaning. :confused: Fairy tale peeps. Clean it occasionally.
 
D/T, I have a Ruger 10/22 I bought in the mid 80's that I go plinking & camping with every year, mostly at my brother's farm. The only "cleaning" I have ever done to it was to put a few patches of Hoppes & Rem gun oil down the barrel & spray the action/firing pin/slide area with some Birchwood/Casey Gun Scrubber every spring. On an average year of shooting, I probably put somewhere between 5,000-6,000 rounds thru it with no problems. I also use CCI's Mini-Mag which is copper plated/headed/jacketed so the lead does not build up quite as fast as some other brands of ammo.
I guess it is just a matter of a personal decision "to clean or not to clean", which would be based on if the gun is firing correctly and no misfires/jambs/mis-operations are occuring.
Good luck and have fun with it, enjoy . . . :thumbup:
Be safe.
 
I've got vinyl coated rods and I pushed a small patch through the barrel before first shooting it. After a few shots with the .30-06 it was like shooting a Red Rider. I think I'm gonna like this thing a lot. I will probably clean up the action and leave the bore alone for now. I'm still upset with myself for the problem with the Sig. It was definitely a fouled magazine that caused that.:o
 
A rifle is a piece of machinery. There are no strange voodoo rules about looking after it.
Keep it clean and lubricated and unless it is some piece of Chinese Communist junk it will perform as designed for decades.

I will refrain from posting my opinions on the "never clean a .22" brigade. This is not Whine and Cheese and my bad language may offend.
 
I'm certainly not against cleaning my .22, it just hasn't become dirty yet. The bore is bright, the bolt is shiny, and the chamber is free of sludge.
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Why not do a quick clean? I've actually slowed down a little...every range session invovled a full break-down and thorough cleaning (yeah, the military discipline and habits). Now, I can quickly brush out any action, blast a quick spray of lube and run a Bore-Snake down the barrel in about 2 minutes per firearm. The only issue I've ever had was my Ruger 10/22 that was never fully broken down and cleaned...the action actually froze up and I had to break it completely down loosen the carbon build up and lube.

I think it's just piss poor discipline and laziness that keeps people from cleaning their firearms. I will admit that I've waited a day or two to finish cleaning, but the barrel is always looked after.

ROCK6
 
ROCK6 said:
Why not do a quick clean? I've actually slowed down a little...every range session invovled a full break-down and thorough cleaning (yeah, the military discipline and habits). Now, I can quickly brush out any action, blast a quick spray of lube and run a Bore-Snake down the barrel in about 2 minutes per firearm. The only issue I've ever had was my Ruger 10/22 that was never fully broken down and cleaned...the action actually froze up and I had to break it completely down loosen the carbon build up and lube.

I think it's just piss poor discipline and laziness that keeps people from cleaning their firearms. I will admit that I've waited a day or two to finish cleaning, but the barrel is always looked after.

ROCK6
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I break down and clean every other firearm I own after every shooting session. It's not laziness, it's just that I think for every round of larger caliber, you could get away with shooting several rounds of .22 without cleaning. There simply is not that much powder to gunk things up. Like I said, I've put a bunch through my CZ and your wouldn't be able to tell from the state of the gun.
I could be way off in my logic, I'm not too proud to admit when I'm wrong.
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I'm really anal about my firearms. They all get tore down and thoroughly cleaned after shooting. I was taught that very young...

The only exception is my Glocks. You can put a hell of a lot of rounds through them, get them dirty and they still function. The only Glock that gets constant attention is my carry pistol. I have Glocks that have well over 10,000 rounds through them, and I've never had the magazines malfuntion because they were dirty.

The barrel steel is hard. Its not going to hurt anything by cleaning them unless you use a highly acidic cleaner, and let it sit to long. I get a lot of satisfaction out of having my guns sparkle:D Especially 1911's
 
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