I found my dust collector, help which one.

JTknives

JTknives

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well after my last post i have keep looking and just found that somone has listed a bunch of Seco double-bag dust collectors on line for sale. thy have a single bag and a bunch of double bag. thy also have one Belsaw 3hp which i see sells for like 500 bucks. these are 3hp dust suckers so thy must suck a ton of ari. would thy work for what i need and what one should i get.

this is the belsaw
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and this is the Seco
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I'm thinking about getting the seco single, it has one bag on top and one bag on the bottom. it moves air at 1224 CFM and is 2HP. but the nice thing is that ity uses 110V and i can get 2.5 micron bags from grizzly so i can filter the air even better then the standard which i dont know what it is but i dont think it is 2.5 but around 30 micron or so. thy want 150 for it. and 175 for the double bag units.
 
I have the KING 1200 cfm double bagger its like 400 bucks 1hp and 110v it also can get a super hi paper filter for super fine dust . I think Im getting it as im getting all the dust but the very fine dust and thats the dust that harms you. The way my unit is for basic saw dust is perfect even metal sanding but not for fine sanding exotic woods I wear a respirator.
 
hellgap said:
I have the KING 1200 cfm double bagger its like 400 bucks 1hp and 110v it also can get a super hi paper filter for super fine dust . I think Im getting it as im getting all the dust but the very fine dust and thats the dust that harms you. The way my unit is for basic saw dust is perfect even metal sanding but not for fine sanding exotic woods I wear a respirator.
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ok i got the single bager (really 2 bags) but it seames to work good and has a small foot print and runs off 110 which is a plus. now to get some hose.
 
Are you going to use this DC for metal dust off the grinder?
If so, are you worried at all about hot sparks lighting up the bags or anything else that you might have sucked up?
 
308sniper said:
Are you going to use this DC for metal dust off the grinder?
If so, are you worried at all about hot sparks lighting up the bags or anything else that you might have sucked up?
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I'm mostly going to use it for handle material and leather. I grind steel into a bucket of water but the handle material like wood, rubber and micarta get every where. I could put a spark arrestor in the intake hose and i would not wory about it. here is a picture of it in place. man i'm excyted

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JT if you find the fine dust isnt getting trapped you can buy a paper filter for the top and works very well. That one looks just like my king 1200 cfm paind 300 plus taxes but with all hoses and stuff was about 400 . Iknow youll like yours . kellyw
 
Ok, I started with a system just like that, Grizzly 2hp. The bags that came with it sucked. I was going to get some .5 micron bags for it but decided to convert the unit to a cyclone system. I took the blower unit and put it on a cyclone I had the local Amish build for me out of stainless steel. never been happier.
I would at least change the bags on yours. I would still use two bags but go down to a 1or .5 micron bags.
 
well i tried it out and man does it suck, in a good way. it almost sucked up a belt i was putting on the grinder. I think i will get some finer bags or a paper filter. i disconnected the hose that connects to the bag unit and just pointed it behind me. i then got some 1095 and let the hose suck up a mad torrent of sparks. not a single hot spark came out the blower hose. now that's not saying it cant or wont suck a spark all the way to the bag I'm just saying that the impeller does a good job of disruption the hot envelope of air around the spark so it can cool. I have been studying commercial spark arestors and that's what thy do. thy just sock the air and dust through a fixed impeller blade which creates a spinning effect. o well i am still going to empty it each night after I'm done just in case.
 
If your using plastic pipe and hose ,watch for static electricity building up in the pipe and it will jump and get you. I use as much metal pipe as I can. I have a 7' piece of plastic flex pipe from my main line to my table saw and was getting zapped so I put a small piece copper wire jumping from the plastic to the metal pipe. That grounded the static charge. No more zap.

Here is some good info on dust collector, ducting and static electricity

http://www.billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/ducting.cfm#StaticElectricity
 
If you can move the collector 10-20 feet from the grinder and use metal ducting you'll have 0 worries about sparks making it all the way.
 
65535 said:
If you can move the collector 10-20 feet from the grinder and use metal ducting you'll have 0 worries about sparks making it all the way.
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I could move it that far away, will i end up with a problem with suction going that far. probable not but i thought i would ask.
 
I do a lot of woodworking. The important thing is to capture the dust at the source. Make shrouds at your tool stations. The smaller particles are the most dangerous to your lungs because they embed deep in the lung and never really clear out. The bags on the machines pictured are not going to trap the dangerous fine particles ( less than 2 microns). Check out Wynns Environmental in Willow Grove, PA. You can get a really good cartridge filter to mount on top of a single bag collector that improves air flow and thus suction. You can then use a plastic bag down below. I have a cyclone system but also use this set up on an el cheapo Harbor Freight 2 hp collector that sucks just fine. I just saw them on sale for like $129 at HF, and this months Mechanics Illustrated and American Woodworker have HF 20% off coupons. The Saeco units are good too. Basically, they are all clones.
 
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