I get it.... kind of, but I need help!!!

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Hi, I was inspired to type this by the other thread.
Why is it that I have so much trouble closing the Sebenza (large, new model) one handed. I almost always end up closing it two handed. And I the only person with this problem?
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Is there a trick that I don't know about?. This is the only reason I haven't carried it much yet. When I pick a knife sometimes I HAVE to be able to open and close it one handed. thanks.---Ed
 
Ed-Look me up and I'll show you
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It really is not that hard to do
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Although it might cost you.... You are joking aren't you? Actually I just push the locking bar with my thumb and then swing the blade in with my index finger.... God Bless-paul

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Nope, not joking at all.
Maybe I'm too used to my wimpy linerlocks.
I will try to do that. Anyone else?
 
i think you r just used to, your wimpy
liner locks.
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i was.

one thing that helps, put a little lube/grease on the contact area of the blade,
work it a few times, wipe off the excess.

i DOES make a difference, i can tell when its
time to relube mine.

later, mark

[This message has been edited by CyberSlacker (edited 06-18-2001).]
 
Guess this is ripe for one of those threads like "How to open and close a Sebenza".

For what its worth, this is how I do it. The springiness of the titanium lock bar does mean you need a firm grip on the remaining part of the handle slab to release the lock. I grip it with the last three fingers and press down with my thumb before pushing back on the spine with my index finger. I had some trouble until I got the middle finger placement in just the right spot to support the downward unlocking motion.

Of course, if you drop it like i did, the middle finger can be used in another fashion at the laughing co-workers who just saw you drop a $300 blade on the floor
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Andrew L



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Guess I'm backwards. I do not change the knife's position in my hand, pull the lock with the index finger, and push the blade partially closed with my thumb, pull the fingertips out of the way (onto the clip), and from the half open/closed push my thumb across the spine at an angle towards the pivot end, which makes the blade seem to close on it's own.
Or I just close it against my leg.
 
I push the lock bar out of the way and then push the spine with the side of my leg moving my thumb out of the way as soon as the blade begins to move. I concur with others, you are probably not used to the thumb strength it takes to move the locking bar, but it isn't that bad. Use the leg technique and you'll be fine.
 
I think the placement of other fingers and grip are the culprit here. I grip mainly with my lil pinki and ring fingers on the heel end on the blade side, push the lock w/ my thumb, close partially with my index, and into the handle w/ my thumb. I think gripping w/ these two fingers is good when opening too.

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Closing ( or opening ) a 'benza isn't a matter or rocket science ! In fact, it's pretty da** simple. . .
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More fact. . .you're not supposed to be using two-hands with or on a "one-handed" knife !

The problem that you're describing. . .is cuz you're attempting to close a CRK one piece. Right ? ? ? Can't be talkin' bout no Sebi. . .

But, the problem that you're describing is due to one of the below factors;

1. You have itty bitty tinny weenie hands

2. You have no (and I mean zero) muscles in your hand and forearm

3. You're the biggest wimp on this forum (actually in the world)

4. You have a problem with your Sebenza !

I'm leaning towards the latter. . . Dude, you shouldn't be havin' those type of closing problems. . .!

Is it a "closing" problem or is the lock hard to release ?

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There was a problem with some of the lock bars not being heat treated and those models were galling up rather tightly against the tang of the blade, so tight as one can hardly move the lock bar at ALL. If this sounds like yours you should contact CRK and ask them if they would take yours in for a look see as I know of two that were in this condition personally....

G2

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No, I'm not a wimp, but the locking bar is REALLY stiff. I have no other locking knife that is NEARLY as difficult to release the lock. And I don't mean disengage, I mean move and hold out of the way. What about you guys?
)))))Is your sebenza the most difficult knife to close that you own? If you can't answer yes, please list which other knives you have that are stiffer. That will give me a basis of a fair comparison, and will help me decide whether to send it back or not. Thanks.
 
How far over on the tang of the blade does your lock fall? The ways described here are exactly the way I close mine. Push over with thumb and close blade with my index finger. I have two large models and this works on both, although my woody has a stiffer lock.

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"For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword"
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The lock falls about 1/2 way across the blade. Again, the problem is not disengaging, rather it is the amount of force required to hold it out of the way so that I can close the blade. Thanks for the info, all. I know a couple of folks that I can have look at it.
Ed
 
If nothing else you will not have to worry about the blade closing up on you.

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Art Sigmon
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me"
Php. 4:13

"For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword"
Heb. 4:12
 
This is a real simple fix Pergatory. . .

Like I said before. . .

You have itty bitty tinny weenie hands, you have no (and I mean zero) muscles in your hand and forearm, you're the biggest wimp on this forum (actually in the world)

OR

You have a problem with your Sebenza !

<font color=red>Send you stuff back to CRK ! Have the "pro's" look at it ! </font>

Besides. . .they're real cool people ! !
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Alright all.
I think I've got it figured out.
UNLIKE linerlocks, I THINK (maybe) that with the Sebbie you need to squeeze the lock also, NOT just push it away with your thumb as you would a liner lock.
I was afraid to do this before, because it doesn't really look like it should bend that way (towards the back-where the stop pin is).
Does that make sense? Am I hurting the lock by bending it in that direction?
thanks.
IF you do what I was doing, just pusting the lock away in an outward direction, yes, closing it is a b-tch. No matter how strong your hands are.
 
Take another read at my post above, it really sounds like your lock bar needs to be heat treated so it doesn't gall up or `lockup' against the tang or end of the blade...

G2
 
Hey Ed -- have had similar problems with my Sebenza. Part of it probably is the difference required in the amount of strength to close the integral vs the average liner lock. Let's face it, it is a much bigger, thicker piece of metal.

But, in addition to that problem, there is the situation where I, at least, used to brace my fingers against the side of the handle, which is now where the lock is located. So, my thumb wasn't only tackling a stronger piece of metal, but it was working against at least a couple fingers to boot.

I've found that it helps me to place my ring and pinky finger sort of hooked around the base of the lock side of the handle -- at the end opposite of the pivot, and hold my social and index fingers sort of out pointing to the side. Then as I push with the thumb, I bring the index finger around behind the end of the blade and push a bit. All that is needed is to get it started, then it is easy. I haven't checked the end of the locking bar for lubricant, but did put a tiny drop of TufGlide down near the detente ball.

My S-2 is even harder than the Sebenza to open. First, the lock goes over half again as far, and there's little doubt it has/requires more power to bend it. Maybe G2 is right, and your bar didn't get heat treated properly.

Good luck!

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Bugs
 
One thing you need to be sure of is that you are not inadvertently pushing up on the blade at the same time as trying to release the lock!?

Be sure that you push the lock from behind the blade and then close it. If you continue to have problems, we would be more than happy to look at the knife!

Anne



[This message has been edited by Chris Reeve Knives (edited 06-22-2001).]
 
Pergatory,
Sounds like you do have a problem possibly.
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You can send the knife to me and I'll be glad to check it out for a year or two for free.
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At the end of said time I'll ship it back to you post-paid along w/ a full report of my findings.
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How could you possibly pass up a deal like this???????????
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Have a good one, (I won't hold my breath till the knife arrives)

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