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I finally came clean with the wifey of all the knives I've purchased so far....I thought I was a goner but all I had to do to make it right was buy her a $170 watch. Lol . So I guess presidence has been set. 10 knives to one watch. Lol sounds good to me. HI for life!
 
ndoghouse said:
I think you hit it right there Shavru. They dont know how to use them in the first place. "My new alarm clock didnt go off this morning cause I didnt read the instructions?" That kinda deal. Its like food. Most people try something once and if they dont like it they never try it again but they sure will talk about it for the rest of their life out of complete ignorance. Kinda bass ackwards logic or complete lack thereof.
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Then there are those who say it's not a real khukuri, b/c it's not historically accurate... spine too thick, too heavy, handle too long... but I don't care.
It may not be a historically accurate khuk, but it's still a REAL khuk, made by real kami, in a real Nepalese village.

I'll try to post pics tomorrow. Big storm rolling my way tonight & tomorrow, so I might loose power. Oiling up the handle with WATCO penetrating Teak Oil right now.
 
00Turok said:
Then there are those who say it's not a real khukuri, b/c it's not historically accurate... spine too thick, too heavy, handle too long... but I don't care. It may not be a historically accurate khuk, but it's still a REAL khuk, made by real kami, in a real Nepalese village.
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There are a few people who make this claim, but they seem to mostly refer to military-issue khukuris of certain vintages. Naturally a military knife is likely to be lighter weight, because it is primarily a weapon and also might have to be carried long distances on foot along with other gear. It also might lack some cosmetic features (like the HI KLVUK model). Some of the HI khukuri models would meet these war-time criteria. However, historically khukuris came in quite a variety of lengths, weights, styles, degree of embellishment, etc. It has been a cultural art-form as well as the more standardized weapons issued to Nepalese soldiers.

HI does not primarily produce replicas of military museum pieces, but usable khukuris made by traditional methods and carrrying the cultural art-form to other countries and helping to perpetuate the tradition, while providing a living for kamis who might otherwise have to seek other ways to earn a living. It is quibbling for anyone to complain that the handles are made longer to accommodate the larger hands (on the average) of westerners. It is beyond quibbling for anyone to complain about the large variety of khukuri styles made by HI kamis, especially considering that some of the styles are an expression of artistic creativity.
 
00Turok said:
Then there are those who say it's not a real khukuri, b/c it's not historically accurate... spine too thick, too heavy, handle too long... but I don't care.
It may not be a historically accurate khuk, but it's still a REAL khuk, made by real kami, in a real Nepalese village.
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davidf99 said:
There are a few people who make this claim, but they seem to mostly refer to military-issue khukuris of certain vintages. Naturally a military knife is likely to be lighter weight, because it is primarily a weapon and also might have to be carried long distances on foot along with other gear. It also might lack some cosmetic features (like the HI KLVUK model). Some of the HI khukuri models would meet these war-time criteria. However, historically khukuris came in quite a variety of lengths, weights, styles, degree of embellishment, etc. It has been a cultural art-form as well as the more standardized weapons issued to Nepalese soldiers.

HI does not primarily produce replicas of military museum pieces, but usable khukuris made by traditional methods and carrrying the cultural art-form to other countries and helping to perpetuate the tradition, while providing a living for kamis who might otherwise have to seek other ways to earn a living. It is quibbling for anyone to complain that the handles are made longer to accommodate the larger hands (on the average) of westerners. It is beyond quibbling for anyone to complain about the large variety of khukuri styles made by HI kamis, especially considering that some of the styles are an expression of artistic creativity.
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I would have to ask these people if a Ferrari is not a car then. It doesn't have running boards, you don't have to crank it to start, it basically isn't a replica of a model A. As Davidf99 points out these are not museum pieces and they are not meant as replicas for re-enactors. They are tools and as such there is no "They need to always be exactly like this or they aren't a khukuri." The VERSION of a Khuk used by the Gurkhas in WWII and even now is different in length and weight than the version from the days of Badamaharajdhiraj Prithvi Narayan Shah. Are these people going to tell the Gurkhas they aren't using Khukuris because they don't conform to that earlier version? Sorry but a khukuri is not a single this is the only one style that ever existed type of thing.
 
Th day I read about battle kukris weighing around 900 grams and wield by shorter people than the average westerner, I stopped caring about that. But those old style blades are surely sweet, that's a given.

The argument of weight becomes even less relevant when you see the sacrificial blades. A kukri is a kukri is a kukri. Just don't confuse it with a machete.

...and this comes from someone that would not be able to use a heavy blade efficiently.
 
yeah of all the blades on this earth I think the khukuri has the widest variety of shapes, uses and local customary embelishments-- and is still in wide use ; two of my favorite blades in my entire collection have puzzle wooden scabbards and are probably katjune or tamang style, and then I have a massive dui chirra from late 1800s ( as you say the sacrificial uses of the knife cannot be ignored when you have a festival like dahrain(sp)

I think there is a pretty strong tradition of building khuks however the maker fancied as dave and shav said, for many tool uses as well as artistic expression. there is no such thing as a standard khuk; they are as varied as the people who make them.

and a siru makes a fine machete :D
 
Haha, ok ok, I was just thinking aout those "kukri machetes" that some call kukris :).
 
Moonw said:
Th day I read about battle kukris weighing around 900 grams and wield by shorter people than the average westerner, I stopped caring about that. But those old style blades are surely sweet, that's a given.

The argument of weight becomes even less relevant when you see the sacrificial blades. A kukri is a kukri is a kukri. Just don't confuse it with a machete.

...and this comes from someone that would not be able to use a heavy blade efficiently.
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That's interesting. Simon, of Tora Blades, nitpicks about weight, size, & balance big time. I had a strong feeling of there being a rivalry, with the way he talks about HI.
Kind of turned me off, even before I knew anything about HI & their products. Now that I have an HI product, I'm still trying to figure out what's so unbalanced about this 18.5" M-43.

I guess it will be less balanced in my hand if I swing it a couple hundred times... but in real world circumstances, how long do you expect to be in a knife fight?
 
In the end, it all depends on the individual's level of fitness. I do love how a lighter knife feels, but kukri or not, I always seem to end with the heavier ones...:D
 
The gentleman you named focuses on blades for a certain use from a certain era. Can't overgeneralize, though - never good, but he seems to think so. His blades do look gorgeous, though, and I am sure they can be, if well done, superb weapons, that would fit more people.

As for "how long", in the trenches, you never knew when the "work day" ended. Today...most likely you don't want to need to draw a knife on someone...
 
Moonw said:
Th day I read about battle kukris weighing around 900 grams and wield by shorter people than the average westerner, I stopped caring about that. But those old style blades are surely sweet, that's a given....
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Some of those shorter people would be much stronger than the average westerner. Especially shorter people who grew up using farm implements, then training for years in the military. And the Gurkhas, in particular, were not selected from average people. I saw a video of some of their screening tests, like running up a long, steep hillside carrying 70 lb packs. And those were just the applicants. Grip, wrist, forearm and shoulder strength could be off the charts, not to mention cardio for people born and raised in high mountain country.

We also should keep in mind that there were the "average" military khukuris made to be issued to the majority of troops, then there would be extra large/heavy khukuris that might be used by stronger individuals, perhaps brought from their home villages. We sometimes see that in modern military units where individuals might carry favorite weapons along with the military issue, although it might be frowned on or even prohibited by regulations.
 
Oh 00Turok, found the video. See my take on it, on thr Bura thread. What a douche, this guy - well, let me throw out a few words just as he did, and ask (sorry, this time I don't even care he's not here to say his part, 'cause he's doing quite well on Youtube) whether he's "most likely" financially-motivated by "the other place"?
 
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Ok, so where is the 'Manage Attachments' icon? It says below the message box, but I see nothing.
 
00Turok said:
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Ok, so where is the 'Manage Attachments' icon? It says below the message box, but I see nothing.
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"Registered Users" (like me) with a free membership cannot post Attachments, but we can upload our photos to a free hosting site (such as Photobucket, etc.) which assigns a URL for each photo. Then the URL for the photo can be added to our forum post (one way is to use the Insert Image icon, which looks like a picture of a tree).
 
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