I Guess EARL Had More Than One Pocket Knife :D

BrotherJim said:
So now if we're just going by companies that had a swedge on ONLY one side of the main blade AND with long pulls ...

FROM THE TOP:
Schrade ... for Boy Scouts of America
Ulster [Schrade] ... for R.J. Reynolds Prince Albert/Old Timer campaign in 60's
Kutmaster
Northwoods ... made by Queen

These are just ones I have and a quick look. There may be others.
AND ... I don't consider a swedge as part of a sabre grind. Few do. That penknife is flat ground on both sides

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LOL....I think you'll find that Camillus made a lot of knives for everybody years ago, even Schrade and Kutmaster (Utica), including the ones in your picture....but thats a whole other story.....
 
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JM2 said:
That Earl knife, is what I was referring. It is flat ground is it not? The swedge is separate from the type of grind it has. Having a single sided ground swedge doesn’t change that the blade itself is flat ground.
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You are confusing terminology there....the front side of the blade has conventional blade grinds and / or swedges. The back side of the blade is just flat.....as in no grinding at all to match the front.......
Some Camillus blades have swedges on both sides but no grind at all on the back, some have a swedge on one side with saber grinds on both sides, some have swedges and saber grinds on both sides, some are just simply flat on both sides with no swedges or anything else.....but the thing here is those Sears knives look to be more Camillus than anything else. Even the pinned construction is similar.
 
Arathol said:
LOL....I think you'll find that Camillus made a lot of knives for everybody, even Schrade and Kutmaster (Utica), including the ones in your picture....but thats a whole other story.....
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Maybe go back and take a look at this post I made earlier ...

- Albert Baer owned Schrade and was soon to completely own Camillus at that time. He was very tight with Sears and had been for a long time. Both Schrade and Camillus furnished a lot of knives to Sears. Western in Colorado sold them some fixed blades for sure and perhaps others knives.
- "I think some Sears knives had parts from both Schrade and Camillus."
- Schrade Walden also made a bunch of fixed blades for Sears.
- Some Sears knives actually had Schrade tang marks. [these 3 don't. They have Sears or Craftsman tang marks]
- Camillus made the old actual bone handled Sears pocket knives.
- Saw a picture of one old Sears knife with an Ulster tang stamp.
- The rectangle Sears Craftsman shield [like the ones I have on the way] first showed up on knives in the Sears Catalogs in 1977.
- "I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination on Craftsman knives. What I have found is that you really have to look at a combination of things. The pattern style, the frame size, the frame design,the blade style, nail nicks, and pattern of the handles. There were many other manufacturers that made knives for the Sears / Craftsman name, including, Ulster, Colonial, Imperial and Utica to name a few. Most of them will have a a matching design by the company that made them along with a similar handle. But, there are some patterns that there are still discussions today as to who definitely made them."
 
Arathol said:
.....but the thing here is those Sears knives look to be more Camillus than anything else. Even the pinned construction is similar.
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Maybe so. Maybe so ... but I disagree ... especially when generalizing about the trio as a whole ... or a single feature of a knife that other companies have employed in construction of their pocket knives as well.
You think they're Camillus and I don't know for sure who made them. Neither of us has compelling proof. Only opinions. :)

For now and until proven otherwise, I"ll stick with the opinion of the guy I bought the knives from. He is far more knowledgeable about them than I am ...
Steve Pfeiffer, author of the book Collecting Case knives - Identification and Price Guide has been collecting, buying, and selling CASE and other brands of vintage and modern pocket knives since 1973.
He is who I purchased from and according to him, these pocket knives are from the 70's to 80's era and made for Sears on contract with Imperial/Schrade.

Considering the close association of Camillus and Schrade at the time, does that mean Camillus didn't have a hand in there somewhere? ... who knows

I think it's safe to say they're SEARS knives LOL ... maybe EARL would agree ;)
 
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Arathol said:
You are confusing terminology there....the front side of the blade has conventional blade grinds and / or swedges. The back side of the blade is just flat.....as in no grinding at all to match the front.......
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There is a plunge line on the back.
Forgetting about the swedge , the blade is V ground.
Full flat on both side, not a full flat chisel grind.
 
^^^ Apparently after 80+yrs, the "CRAFTSMAN STA-SHARP" etch on the main blade is faded from this one.
Everything else looks pretty good ... to me :)
 
JM2 said:
That last one is a sweet example. Does it have bone or plastic panels?
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Bone. Camillus was the only producer of Sears Craftsman knifes up until 1940.
No Sears Craftsman (or Camillus) tang stamps. The knives had a Craftsman Sta-Sharp blade etch that has faded away completely on this one.
At least it appear to have in these pictures.
 
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Earl might have owned more than one knife ... likely, in fact, even if he wasn't a knife nut, he would have replaced them as he wore them out.
Another (albeit slim) possibility is there was more than one Earl.

Nice knife.
 
rea1eye said:
I got this Sears 95201 knife coming to me. I think it was from the American Eagle
Series made by Schrade. Does anyone know about when it was made?
I think it was made of Delrin, not the usual wood scales.

www.ebay.com

Sears Craftsman 95201 Small Pocket Knife Vintage Brass Wood 2 Blade USA | eBay

Great working condition.
www.ebay.com

Thanks,
Bob
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Hi Bob ... nice little pen knife !!! :)
No idea about age and not sure those who might know will check this thread I made and give you a response.
Were it me, I'd start a new thread with questions about the pen knife since this thread isn't really a catch all for Craftsman knives
Just a suggestion. I'm curious about the knife too LOL and just think if you start a thread about it, you might get better responses
Respectfully ... Jim
 
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