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I Hate
- Thread starter beera
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..respecting most respectful opinions.However I positively hate knife companies that discontinue my favourite knives or knives that I was just getting around to buy and now have to scrounge like a starving racoon in a garbagecan for the knife that I now want/and have to pay too much for .This really does belong in "Whine and Cheese"
:grumpy: :grumpy:Anxiously awaiting tax-refund...could be happy times ahead!!!
:grumpy: :grumpy:Anxiously awaiting tax-refund...could be happy times ahead!!!To me:
Hollow ground doesn't matter, thumb studs are exceptable, g-10 is the best handle matirial, plastic/zytel has it's place, and recurves are the pretty great.
With that said, I have to say that I don't think I "hate" any knife. There are some I like much more than others, but a knife is a knife. Whether it's a custom, top of the line production, or a flea market p.o.s.; whether it's plastic , titanium, tanto, dagger, ect., it is what it is, and it has it's place.
Hollow ground doesn't matter, thumb studs are exceptable, g-10 is the best handle matirial, plastic/zytel has it's place, and recurves are the pretty great.
With that said, I have to say that I don't think I "hate" any knife. There are some I like much more than others, but a knife is a knife. Whether it's a custom, top of the line production, or a flea market p.o.s.; whether it's plastic , titanium, tanto, dagger, ect., it is what it is, and it has it's place.
Hates!!
1. Painted, coated blades that start to wear first time out of the sheath. (SOG and CS please note!!)
2. Any blade given to you with 'China' on the blade.
3. The price of any good knife in the UK. (Thank the Lord for Ebay).
4. People buying me a knife as a present, they are always rubbish (Ebay again).
5. The look people give you when you get a knife out to open something.
6. The fact that 75% of my collection is to expensive to carry!!!!
7. People who class themselves as a knife nut, and have never heard of Buck!!
8. The next person who asks if I'm handing my knives in to the police in a 'knives amnesty' they've got on at the moment!!!!
(Sit back and wait for abuse).
Carl
1. Painted, coated blades that start to wear first time out of the sheath. (SOG and CS please note!!)
2. Any blade given to you with 'China' on the blade.
3. The price of any good knife in the UK. (Thank the Lord for Ebay).
4. People buying me a knife as a present, they are always rubbish (Ebay again).
5. The look people give you when you get a knife out to open something.
6. The fact that 75% of my collection is to expensive to carry!!!!
7. People who class themselves as a knife nut, and have never heard of Buck!!
8. The next person who asks if I'm handing my knives in to the police in a 'knives amnesty' they've got on at the moment!!!!
(Sit back and wait for abuse).
Carl
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I'm quite flexible when it comes to my taste in knives, I really like natural materials and simple elegant lines, but I also like the practical aspects of some modern "tactical" (hate that word) knives. While not aesthetically pleasing, I'm perfectly happy with my Endura 4 for an EDC.
I prefer holes to thumbstuds. In fact I can only stand studs that are well to the back of the blade and out of my way, like on the SERE 2000 and BM Ares.
I'm a bit more strict about my fixed blades, I will have no synthetic materials on them, wood, stag and other natural materials look so much better and have worked well for me so far. There's nothing like a properly made leather sheath, no kydex or nylon for me.
About grinds, I really like flat and convex grinds, but I can live with hollow grinds on folders and small pocket fixed blades. My Buck 110 is hollow ground and it works like a charm. I don't like hollow grinds on my full size fixed blades, I use them hard (specially when working on SAR missions) and I don't trust hollow grinds for really hard work.
I prefer holes to thumbstuds. In fact I can only stand studs that are well to the back of the blade and out of my way, like on the SERE 2000 and BM Ares.
I'm a bit more strict about my fixed blades, I will have no synthetic materials on them, wood, stag and other natural materials look so much better and have worked well for me so far. There's nothing like a properly made leather sheath, no kydex or nylon for me.
About grinds, I really like flat and convex grinds, but I can live with hollow grinds on folders and small pocket fixed blades. My Buck 110 is hollow ground and it works like a charm. I don't like hollow grinds on my full size fixed blades, I use them hard (specially when working on SAR missions) and I don't trust hollow grinds for really hard work.
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Good list, but you left one off:Archer26 said:
9. When you need to cut something and as you're reaching for your knife some idiot pulls out their key and either starts sawing at it or hands it to you as if you're going to actually cut something with a key.
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Hate Microtech prices.
I don't really "hate" anything personally, but there are things that make me think twice about buying a knife, or make me decide against buying one. For example:
Partial serrations, in most cases I don't think they offer an advantage compared to a properly sharpened PE. Many task-spesific knives do gain from a fully serrated blade though.
Liner locks, a matter of personal trust. I'm also beginning to shy away from framelocks, because of the tension tilting the blade in the closed pos., even though I usually really like the designs, and the thinness.
Hollow grinds, though they have their place in razors, game knives etc. An appearance issue partly, but I also like the properties of a flat or a convex grind better.
420, because I see it all too much, and am not at all impressed.
Recurves, makes detailed work difficult, usually a pronounced trailing point which I personally dislike. I don't really see the advantage of the cumbersome inner curve as the much hyped increased slicing actually comes from the "rise" of the belly.
Plastic, especially in folder handles. I like my tools sturdy, and preferably all metal. Sometimes the insulative and shock absorbing qualities are of great use.
Hand guards on the spine side of the knife. it hinders many grips. I don't have rapiers.
Over-beefed-up knives, often more of a disadvantage than a benefit.
There are other things too, but it all depends on the purpose and design of the individual knife, and none of the things mentioned above outright make a knife bad. If it serves a purpose and is well executed, I see no problem at all, on the contrary.
There are some things that always are quite off putting though, e.g. crap marketed as quality on the basis of a known brand and "wild" designs just for the sake of being cool/badass. I'm pretty much willing to include camo finishes in the latter.
...now I think I actually thought of a knife I might hate. The so called Cobra Knife. A cliché in the "look at how f-ing tough I am posing with my bad ass knife"-circles. Cheap crap too. The look of it always makes me feel a little ill. :barf:
Partial serrations, in most cases I don't think they offer an advantage compared to a properly sharpened PE. Many task-spesific knives do gain from a fully serrated blade though.
Liner locks, a matter of personal trust. I'm also beginning to shy away from framelocks, because of the tension tilting the blade in the closed pos., even though I usually really like the designs, and the thinness.
Hollow grinds, though they have their place in razors, game knives etc. An appearance issue partly, but I also like the properties of a flat or a convex grind better.
420, because I see it all too much, and am not at all impressed.
Recurves, makes detailed work difficult, usually a pronounced trailing point which I personally dislike. I don't really see the advantage of the cumbersome inner curve as the much hyped increased slicing actually comes from the "rise" of the belly.
Plastic, especially in folder handles. I like my tools sturdy, and preferably all metal. Sometimes the insulative and shock absorbing qualities are of great use.
Hand guards on the spine side of the knife. it hinders many grips. I don't have rapiers.
Over-beefed-up knives, often more of a disadvantage than a benefit.
There are other things too, but it all depends on the purpose and design of the individual knife, and none of the things mentioned above outright make a knife bad. If it serves a purpose and is well executed, I see no problem at all, on the contrary.
There are some things that always are quite off putting though, e.g. crap marketed as quality on the basis of a known brand and "wild" designs just for the sake of being cool/badass. I'm pretty much willing to include camo finishes in the latter.
...now I think I actually thought of a knife I might hate. The so called Cobra Knife. A cliché in the "look at how f-ing tough I am posing with my bad ass knife"-circles. Cheap crap too. The look of it always makes me feel a little ill. :barf:
I agree. I am one of the few people here that is happy with flea market knives. Yes, I enjoy them less than a good knife, but the joy is proportional to the price, and sometimes it is nice to buy a burger for 3 bucks and spend the other 2 bucks out of the 5 on a knife. I just plain like knives, even junk knives.Siggyhk said:
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You use the recurve by putting what you want to cut inbetween the bump and handle, then pulling. Makes a huge difference over other designs. If you happen to have a decent recurve, try this.
Get a big piece of cardboard, and try slicing through with the flat pre recurve portion of the blade, and then only use the recurve edge itself (the inside), back and forth.
My 41MC just tore through anything once it hit the bump on the blade. Without changing the pressure applied, I just watched as an extra CM of slicing suddenly came through the cardboard.
Also good for cutting fabrics, if only because it holds it on the blade well while you pull it.
Get a big piece of cardboard, and try slicing through with the flat pre recurve portion of the blade, and then only use the recurve edge itself (the inside), back and forth.
My 41MC just tore through anything once it hit the bump on the blade. Without changing the pressure applied, I just watched as an extra CM of slicing suddenly came through the cardboard.
Also good for cutting fabrics, if only because it holds it on the blade well while you pull it.
well, while im at it . i hate ka- bars and ontario knives , any company that makes those uber cool , tacti-cool jihad, klingon death weapon , covert deanimating used by all of spec-war knives. i also hate knives made in china , taiwan , pakistan [or any stan for that matter ]. good ole USA for me . if i think of anything else ill holler.
beera said:
I most graciously disagree with you on every one
.1. Hollow ground blades are great at what they are designed for, cutting and slicing. Always my personnal preference when I have a choice.
2. Thumb Studs. They aren't my personnal favorite as I like a disc on top of the blade instead, and holes are nice but I like a piece of metal for my thumb to come in contact with. Again just my personnal opinion.
3. G-10 is much stiffer than some metals now being used in hi-end folders. Titanium is great but flexes under pressure (G-10 doesn't) and on a cold day G-10 is going to be much more comfortable in your hand also.
4. Recurve blades, I don't have any trouble at all keeping mine razor sharp and a recurve gives you more cutting area in the blade, besides, nothing is as sexy looking as a great big old recurve blade
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