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I have two Kizer Gemini Knives, but they are a little different from eachother

Discussion in 'Kizer Cutlery' started by RC15, Apr 13, 2017.

  1. RC15

    RC15 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    486
    Jan 29, 2017
    I assume Kizer did a slight design switch to the Gemini, anyone know when that might have been?

    Here are my two Gemini knives, as you can see there is a slight variation between the two. Thanks!

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  2. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    Does the bottom one also say "Ray Laconico" across the spine while the top one doesn't?
     
  3. RC15

    RC15 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    486
    Jan 29, 2017
    They both say it across the spine:

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  4. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    I think what you have there is a first and a third generation Gemini. The model on the bottom is a 1st Gen production run Gemini. It's identical to my Gemini and I got one of the first models sold here in the US. After the first run of Geminis sold out, Kizer came out with a 2nd Gen version that appeared identical to the first Gen in almost every way except there was no "Ray Laconico" on the blade spine. People who bought Gen 2 complained about the omission and Kizer returned the "Ray Laconico" for Gen 3 and later production runs. Somewhere in this Kizer sub-forum there are posts about people getting Gen 2 Geminis and commenting about the missing inscription. If you can find them, that might place the dates for Gen 1, 2 and 3.

    Now, here's the kicker...your Gen 3 may be a 3...4...5...or later. I have no idea how many production runs have been made since and whether there are any slight differences in any later runs. Only Kizer could tell you that for certain.
     
  5. abbazaba

    abbazaba Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 30, 2015
    Wait, is the third gen shipping with the machined Ursa Minor clip now?!?! If so, big props to Kizer.
     
  6. RC15

    RC15 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    486
    Jan 29, 2017
    No, that was added aftermarket :)

    But they should come with it from the factory though, much better than the purple clip imo.
     
  7. RC15

    RC15 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    486
    Jan 29, 2017
    Thank you very much for your informative response! Exactly what I was looking for
     
  8. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    I'm kind of the local Kizer junkie :D
     
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  9. Mesenzo

    Mesenzo

    179
    Nov 5, 2015
    There's no 1st gen. Gemini in the pics...
    The first generation carried the name Jasmin (like the custom version) and not Gemini! That changed with the second gen.
    Also that first generation had holes for the pocket clip also on the front scale!
    These holes also disappeared with the second gen.
    Cheers!
     
  10. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    I thought the Kizer Jasmin knives were all proto and not a production run?

    Oh well, I Learn something new everyday:)!
     
  11. raylaconico

    raylaconico

    Jan 30, 2004
    I think you're talking about the pre production prototype. As far as I know it never went into production as the Jasmine
     
  12. Mesenzo

    Mesenzo

    179
    Nov 5, 2015
    The first 1 or 2 shipment(s) of this model that I (Kizer dealer in Europe) received was like that...
    I'm not sure how many there were but in 2015 I sold about 14 pieces with the Jasmin name on them. Kizer usually does not produce that many prototypes of a new model.
    Maybe one of the Kizer employees can give the final information. David? Stella?
     

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