I like "crappy" knives.

There's a happy medium for me with buying an expensive knife. Somewhere between not too high and not too low say around no more than $100-120. This figure can fluctuate from person to person depending on how much bread they're bringing home. :D Love the beaters though where you're not paying attention to every little scratch and dink and the darn thing just keeps on cutting and doing it's thing.
 
marcinek said:
+1 for the "there's no excuse for using a crappy knife when there are ton of high-quality very inexpensive knives"

All using a "crappy" knife proves is that one doesn't know or care about knives.

If that's the case, why even come to/participate in bladeforums? :D Odd.
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How expensive a knife should someone own before they should participate in bladeforums according to you?
Is a $80 knife sufficient or are we talking about a $200 minimum?

Edit nevermind, read expensive instead of inexpensive.
 
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My next knife will be a Mora companion and I can't wait to see how it works out. I've heard nothing but good things plus it's about the same price I pay for a large pizza pie.
 
the kid said:
How expensive a knife should someone own before they should participate in bladeforums according to you?
Is a $80 knife sufficient or are we talking about a $200 minimum?
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You are missing my point entirely. I said there are a ton of high-quality very inexpensive knives. You quoted it! :)

I said I find it odd that someone who prefers crappy knives would participate in BF....not that it would be odd for someone who enjoys high-quality very inexpensive knives to participate in BF.

Again...all in what you quoted. :thumbup:
 
marcinek said:
You are missing my point entirely. I said there are a ton of high-quality very inexpensive knives. You quoted it! :)

I said I find it odd that someone who prefers crappy knives would participate in BF....not that it would be odd for someone who enjoys high-quality very inexpensive knives to participate in BF.

Again...all in what you quoted. :thumbup:
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Yes I misread you post, sorry.. :cool:
 
I would like to think the term "crappy" used by the OP was meant to mean "inexpensive". This forum is actually awesome for someone like me or the OP to sort through the junk and find out what is actually a good quality yet inexpensive knife. Although i treat my knives with care, i would still not want to pay more than $50 for something that could get ruined with hard use. I do have a few knives that i abuse- i have a couple Vics that i dont find practical to carry so i keep them at home and use to cut through materials that would make me cringe even using a $20 CRKT on.
 
hazy said:
I wish I could hard use my expensive knives but I just can't bring myself to do it, maybe if I make more money in the future I won't feel bad about whaling on a $200 ZT.
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My job pays about minimum wage, and I feel just fine using the hell out of my Umnumzaan.
And SmF.
And SnG.
And Spyderco Tuff (and Urban, etc., etc.).
In fact, making less money, I'd feel silly not using them. :)
 
People often say things like "What if I bust the tip off?"
Simple: you put a new tip on it (did it with the Spyderco Military).

"It'll get dull!"
Sharpen it.

"It gets scratched!!!"
Live with it...or polish it.
 
This is exactly right, to me. Cheap does not mean crappy. My cheap Mora gets a lot of use and it's fun to play around with the carbon steel, but if I wreck it...meh, buy another.


Bigfattyt said:
Cheap and crappy are not synonymous.

I regularly carry a 500+ custom slip joint. I have castrated cattle with it. I have used a $900-1000 big knife to chop and......eek.........throw.


But I also love a $12 Opinel. A $30 machete chops well enough for a lot of uses, and I will often grab one instead of an expensive knife.


Nothing wrong with an inexpensive knife. Make it sharp, and use it.
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I will be honest and say I may never use my SnG like I used my $15 EDC.
Partly because of price and partly because I know how hard it is to repair CPM154 compared to 8cr13mov.

I miss cheap knives but I am a knife snob now, so...
 
stabman said:
People often say things like "What if I bust the tip off?"
Simple: you put a new tip on it (did it with the Spyderco Military).

"It'll get dull!"
Sharpen it.

"It gets scratched!!!"
Live with it...or polish it.
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I agree and I think it comes down to people who are users and people who are collectors. Some people buy knives to do work and some buy them as jewelry. Nothing wrong with either and there's bleed over between the two.

I personally think every scratch, nick and dent just tells the tale of my adventures with my knife. I'm a user not a collector. And even though I haven't found a better user then my mora that doesn't mean I'm not looking. I'm a knife knut and I want a "fancy" knife to do those tasks. And when I find it you bet it'll have scratches on it. :D
 
Knives cleave items apart using a thin wedge which is harder than what is being separated. This system works well for metal against flesh, vegetables, vegetation, wood, etc. One can expect a nice smooth separation of said material.

This tool concept should not be expected to work well against screws, nails, cement, cinder blocks, etc.

I do not understand the hard use concept. There are better tools for the job, you just chose to use a knife instead of getting the right tool. Pry bar, claw hammer, putty knife, whatever
 
springnr said:
Knives cleave items apart using a thin wedge which is harder than what is being separated. This system works well for metal against flesh, vegetables, vegetation, wood, etc. One can expect a nice smooth separation of said material.

This tool concept should not be expected to work well against screws, nails, cement, cinder blocks, etc.

I do not understand the hard use concept. There are better tools for the job, you just chose to use a knife instead of getting the right tool. Pry bar, claw hammer, putty knife, whatever
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I doubt anyone expects a knife to work well on those things, but the fact is that a knife can do many jobs it is not explicitly designed for. Being creative can allow you to solve many problems with just a knife. That is one important reason for hard-use. Think of MacGyver. ;)

I once scraped the battery terminals clean on my friend's ATV and even tightened the terminals with my cheapy EDC knife. Nobody cares that a knife is the "wrong tool" when it keeps you from being stranded in the woods 15miles from home.

That it why I carry a (folding) knife. It has the best blend of convenience and usefulness of anything I know of.
 
You should check out them newfangled multitools. :>)

Just saying "hard use" sounds like political spin.
Abuse, miss use, are what is being mentioned. The real conversation seems to be I don't mind lighting my cigar with a dollar bill, and Joe is just fine using 100 dollar bills.
 
springnr said:
You should check out them newfangled multitools. :>)

Just saying "hard use" sounds like political spin.
Abuse, miss use, are what is being mentioned. The real conversation seems to be I don't mind lighting my cigar with a dollar bill, and Joe is just fine using 100 dollar bills.
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lol, funny thing is that I did have my multitool but the knife was more convenient. No damage to the knife, except for a scuffed spine and partly dulled edge, so I think it was not a horrible choice.
I guess my example was misuse, oops. I dunno...
but yeah. Uselessly damaging a knife under the auspices of hard-use is far too popular in my opinion.
I think hard-use kinda means using a folder for fixed-blade uses.
 
marcinek said:
+1 for the "there's no excuse for using a crappy knife when there are ton of high-quality very inexpensive knives"

All using a "crappy" knife proves is that one doesn't know or care about knives.

If that's the case, why even come to/participate in bladeforums? :D Odd.
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Exactly :)
 
The only time I choose a cheaper knife over a more expensive one is when there is a very high chance I will lose the knife. Even then, I carry a Buck Vantage or a Rat 1 or something like that. Quality knives that dont break the bank. But I dont sub them for my Benchmades and such because of the work load.
 
When I was a kid my good knife was a Gerber LST and now 20 years later its my "crappy" knife. Its interesting how one persons crappy knife is another's good knife. One man's garbage is a another man's treasure:)
 
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