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Kevin the grey

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Alright as was mentioned a first aid kit is almost essential in event of injury.
Unless you are DR. Jane medecine woman bringing a couple of things along would be a good idea.

What is in a good small basic first aid kit?

Is there any advice you have for getting the most out of it.
 
Good thread, as I am still mulling over my FAK.
bandaids, gauze, pills, anti-bacterial ointment, your duct tape can do temporary wound closure.

What else?? hacksaw? meat cleaver? morphine? oops, wrong order.
 
Kevin the grey said:
Alright as was mentioned a first aid kit is almost essential in event of injury.
Unless you are DR. Jane medecine woman bringing a couple of things along would be a good idea.

What is in a good small basic first aid kit?

Is there any advice you have for getting the most out of it.
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Among other things, always include soap, Imodium, Gravol, and a good strong pain killer.

Doc
 
Doc I am kinda immune to O:T:C: pain killers.
222s with codeine don't even handle a headache for me any more.

I received a gash on the hand that required stitching.
The doctor gave me something that was so strong you were not supposed to operate machinery.(The next day!) Their name sounded like stupid-doll. I called them that cause that is how you felt on them.
I have a couple of those left. They are getting kinda old.

I am kind of immune to stomach problems as well. I guess there is an upside to everything.

Soap is a good one. Gravol? Is it good for more than motion sickness?
 
Kevin, my doctor friend told me that medicine like that, contrary to belief, doesn't go stale or wear out. Put them in a small plastic bag, or pill bottle and make sure you label them!!

I have the oxycodone leftover from a problem i had 2 years ago....those thigs are strong, real strong. my plan is that I can cut 1 tab in half, and spread it over 24 hours.
Now, besides pain, there is the need to reduce swelling, and such.
 
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Kevin the grey said:
Doc I am kinda immune to O:T:C: pain killers.
222s with codeine don't even handle a headache for me any more. Kevin, I wasn't suggesting OTC pain killers. Like Skunk says further down, I too carry Oxycodone. My doctor prescribes them for me because of recurring kidney stones and the possibility an attack may happen when I'm sleeping on a river bank, somewhere.

I received a gash on the hand that required stitching.
The doctor gave me something that was so strong you were not supposed to operate machinery.(The next day!) Their name sounded like stupid-doll.Considering someone, I think it was Skunk, suggested that you sometimes wear a robe and a tiara, could it be Midol? I called them that cause that is how you felt on them.
I have a couple of those left. They are getting kinda old.

I am kind of immune to stomach problems as well. I guess there is an upside to everything. Although you may normally be relatively immune to stomach problems, in a survival situation, and the probability of reduced hygiene, a stomach problem could be a real possibility. Chronic diarrhea can be a killer due to loss of liquids and electrolytes (you medical people can correct this if I screwed up)

Soap is a good one. Gravol? Is it good for more than motion sickness? I've used it for different causes of nausea. With kidney stone attacks, I often experience vomiting from the pain, so when I feel an attack coming, I take a Gravol right away to prevent puking up the pain pill. The last time I went to an emergency ward for a stone attack, they thought I was going to puke on their floor, so they hooked me up to an IV of Demerol (maybe that's the drug you were talking about) and Gravol - instant relief

. A good survival tip - a few other times when I went to the Krankenhaus for a stone attack, they gave me absolutely nothing for the pain. If this happens to you, make like you're going to puke on their floor...........
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Doc (This is me lengthening my post to at least 10 words, to make the powers at large, happy).
 
Krankenhouse is dat like der butchershoppen?

I'll speak to my Doc about prescribing painkillers. I don't know what I would tell him. I don't want some health complaint on my record that may affect employment opportunities.
 
A Really basic kit for me would contain The following

Meds: Immodium (nothing i know, stops diarhea faster).
Pain killer: tylenol usually works for me but YMMV. carry at least a 24 hour supply

Cough drops: trying to get needed rest or simply travel can be impeded by a cough, plus its just plain annoying in the field

Personal meds: if you take a med every day, make sure its with you.


Tools: Emt Shears Large or small (can cut anything, even branches for a shelter in a pich.)

Good Tweezers:for removal of splinters and such
A disposable razor: may be a good option if you find you have to attach a bandage to a hairy part of you, or someone else.


Bandages:
4-6 4x4s
1 roll of 1/2-1 inch tape
2-4 2x2
1 roll of 1-2 inch roller gauze
4lg bandaids 1
ace supportive bandage
6reg bandaids
2 bandanas
6 butterflies
1 4x4 piece of mole skin

2 tongue blades (for finger splints)
2 saftey pins
1 needle
4 alcohol or other clensing wipe
2 antibiotic ointment

CPR Mask (if quallified)
1-2 pairs Gloves (latex or non)
I use an MDI Keychain barrier sheild with a pair of gloves in the pouch as part of my edc.
 
The goal with first aid is to patch yourself up well enough to move, or at least to stay alive until help arrives (12-24 hours hopefully). On longer trips, you want to have enough first aid equipment so that minor injuries can be treated without forcing you to end your trip early, but on shorter trips, this is not an issue. Luxuries like antibiotic ointment, alcohol pads, specialized bandages, irrigations syringe, excessive quantities of dressings etc. just add weight and bulk.

This is simple set up I have for day trips.

strip bandaids
gauze
tape
Advil
Gravol
Imodium
Moleskin

Depending on the nature of the trip and likelihood of sprains or fractures (skiing or biking for example) an elastic bandage and lightweight splint (Sam Splint) are a good idea to bring. They are easy to use and make a huge difference in comfort and the ability to continue moving. Also, in the case of a foot or ankle injury, do not remove your boot as the swelling will make it impossible to put it back on. A 40-hour wilderness first aid course should be considered minimal training for the outdoor enthusiast.
 
I think thin super glu is very importent. Do to many hazards of what I do for living I am constantly getting cuts. Sueper glu is almost as good as stitches. Try to stop the bleeding if possible, pinching off, whatever works, squirt the super glue into the wound and hold it closed till it is dry. For additional strength for the closure if needed, a piece of surgical glove, or anything availble super glued over the wound will stay in place for quite some time. A tube of super glu could replace a lot of tape and close up a serious wound. Once up on a time I had a race car get knocked off the jack stands when I was underneath it, luckly the only injury I recieve was a really bad cut in back of my ear, I refused to go to the doctor at that time, I had my son super glu it closed (hey we had a race to run). The next day I went to my doctor to have it looked at and he said if I had came in when it happened he would have put in about 10 stitches. He also said that the super glu was holding it fine and to just keep an eye on it. anothor plus super glu does not burn!! I I use it several time a year for various cuts. Also could be very usefull for securing bindings or wraps that may be needed for various things, underlaying tree bark for a wrap to atach a arrowhead and super glu to make it strong ??

If willow trees are around you can peel off the outer bark and strip off the underlying stringy stuff and chew it for asprin.

Leon Pugh
 
Superglue is a great addition to a firstaid kit but a word of caution, It can seal in an infection. A freind of mine used it to close some thumb injuries from a grinding wheel that had jewlers rouge on it, a week later he was in an ER with several doctors working to save his thumbs.

If you use super glue just make sure the wound is clean first.I use Derma Bond wich is basically hospital issue super glue.
 
I'm pretty good for fighting off infections. I haven't even had a cold in three years.

Let me ask this. I am reading putting crazy glue in the cut. Is this as opposed to only gluing the very upper dead skin layer closed?

Wouldn't the wet or damp with blood inner surfaces hamper the glue from adhering properly?

Thats a good tip about using a piece of surgical glove as a patch over a wound. I was always told that while preventing infection was important surviving the incident was more important. A live man may heal an infection. A dead man needn't bother.
 
I have never Heard of anyone putting glue "in" a cut. I use it to bind the upper layers of skin together
 
I had two bad gashes on my palms. One the flipping doctor used anesthetic to numb the pain. The needles hurt worse than the cut. The stitches were a stone cold lucky chance I didn't slap the doctor in the head. I was convinced crazy glue would have been better. No pain killer.

Secong gash that really could have used a couple of stitches was crazy glued shut and the doctor gave me enough painkillers to keep a junky high for a month. These things warned you not to operate machinery even after eight hours sleep.

The crazy glue barely held. I had to baby it for a couple of days.
 
When you close the wound the fluids will push the excess glue to the surface where it is actually holding. I am a automotive tech. & knife maker, cuts are a constant problem, the auto repair is the worst. Most of the time I cap it with a piece of surgical glove which holds very well. It seem to me I have less redness, inflamation when I use super glu vs other treatments? somtimes it is a pain to reduce the bleeding enough to get to stick. The ovelay will always overcome that problem. I am not a Dr. or even a EM but it works for me.
Leon Pugh
 
If the wound was a little difficult to close and excess glue was squeezed to the surface would the piece of surgical glove act as an elastic bandage to keep the two sides of the wound pinched together?
 
My kit is the same for the most part except suture set up (dissolving and non dissolving for mucous membranes and non), hemostats, and IV catheters and a saline bag and tubing (increase blood volume to prevent shock and rehydrate).

I can self start my own IV with either hand due to hyperfascination/obsession with being able to do this task.

My meds include some prescription pain relief, Benadryl for possible allergic reaction, Motrin for inflammation/pain (reduces pain by reducing inflammation), Simethicone for gas, Immodium for diarrhea,, Tylenol for mild pain and when a opiate analgesic is not appropriate (lowers resiratory rate, causes drowsines and dizzynes, lowers blood pressure).
 
Last time the doc said I needed stitches I told him I would do it at home.
He told me "I don't recomend it but suture self." :D

Listen me bucko. I'm a brave enough lad. I guess I could sew myself if I had to.
The only thing stopping me is the pain. (Duh):confused: :D

I found it a whole new kind of pain when the stitching needle was in the flesh below the skin. Really not an enjoyable experience.
 
Quote - EmsRescueGuy: Cough drops: trying to get needed rest or simply travel can be impeded by a cough, plus its just plain annoying in the field

Good point, ERG, so in the spirit of more than one use for a survival item, take Benadryl - a powerful cough suppressant. Good for allergies, as well. BTW, cough suppressant information comes from: Wilderness Medicine, 4th Edition, William W. Forgey, M.D., Globe Pequot Press, 1994, ISBN# 0-934802-93-9, page 206. and I've used it and it seems to work.

Doc
 
I usually Bring Benadryl for severe allergic reactions, Not so much for me but for some of my companions who i know are badly allergic.

I am Very Med Sensitive and benadryl puts me out of action quickly.

One More thing that is a must is a knowlwdge of Medical problems for anyone with you ,Diabetes, eppi pens, allergies, etc. Talk about these and what needs to happen if they occur before setting out.
 
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