I need a go to knot on a bight....

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So, yesterday I had knot failure.

Three rubber brackets that hold the exhaust on my wife's car gave way and she called me to come help her.

I tossed some tools in the car and got there - grabbed some rope - tied off one end to the muffler bracket and then proceeded to make a bowline on a bight to make a pully. Pulled it up - had considerable weight on the rope and did not have a knot in my quiver to tie this off. I struggle with a knot to do this - and end up making something janky and ill suited for the job.


What knot do you think would be good for this - think of the open end on a tarp or a hammock?

TF
 
Oh - sorry - I put three new rubber hangers on and drove it slow the two miles home - THAT part is solved.

I was just using it as an example to show my FAIL at that type of knot.

TF
 
If I get a chance in the next couple days, I'll post some pic's of my own, but in the meantime...

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pic from survivalworld.com

If you want it to stick/jamb, use two half hitches.
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If you want to untie it easily, do a half hitch and a slipped half hitch, or half hitches with a toggle through it.
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(like the one in the middle but leave the 2nd loop slipped like the one on the right) This pic is from primitiveways.com... I think maybe the author posts on here?

If you want it to be adjustable, tie the working end off with an adjustable grip hitch back to the standing end of the rope.
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pic from layhands.com which is a great knot site
 
on the exhaust i reckon wire would go better than rope.as a temporary measure.
 
TF
If I get the question right, you used a "pulley" to raise the muffler (or whatever) by puling against a bracket Or whatever #2). I think that chopchop is on the right track with the slipped half-hitch. You can "pinch" the two ropes together at the "pully" with one hand and throw the hitch on with the other to secure. This naturally leaves a very sharp byte in the rope which is a weak point in the support. I would follow by placing a constrictor knot around both objects. This is a strong method without kinks and will not slip or let your objects move apart. The disadvantage is that it may need to be cut off but what the heck--I bet you carry a knife!
 
Next time use bailing wire or a clothes hanger. You can lever up the muffler with a stick of wood.
 
He was asking for a knot on a bight people. How about a simple overhand? On a bight.
 
A Butterfly Loop is so much better than an overhand.
 
I learned the truckers hitch today - and employed it at Home Depot when I needed to secure a load.

I need to practice on the slipping double half hitch though.

TF
 
Talfuchre said:
I learned the truckers hitch today - and employed it at Home Depot when I needed to secure a load.

I need to practice on the slipping double half hitch though.

TF
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I think I misunderstood! Based on your description before, I think you actually made a trucker's hitch when you tied off your muffler... you used the bowline on a bight as the loop, pulled the line through the loop, and then tied it off, right? So, I was just suggesting how to tie off the working end after you pull it tight through the loop.


If you're looking for a knot to tie a loop in the middle of a line, I agree with BAcolt... the alpine butterfly is the best option, imo. It's very easy to tie, is strong, and easy to untie.

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(pic from wikipedia)
 
Trucker's hitch is good, but be careful when using nylon line that it doesn't cut itself when you use the bight like a block or pulley. Friction will cut nylon cord like butta. I like using a 'biner as the pulley to reduce friction.
 
Truckers hitch is good, and the slipped buntline hitch is a great knot to know for securing things in pace too.
 
Well, tf,

I played around with a couple different things and I came up with the Talfuchre Hitch. Take the end and make 3 round turns, then down behind the spar, over next to the standing part and make a clove hitch, with the working end down (dress the knot so it tightens up). Then half hitch the end to the standing part. Voila, the Talfuchre Hitch. (the three round turns should be touching each other - I left them apart for better visuals).

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Basically, it's a knot that's in Ashley with 3 round turns added in.

Doc
 
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