I need help directing me to the proper forum for Case Knives

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Good Morning I am new and I need help directing me to the proper forum for Case XX Knives.
I am not looking for pricing but only Identification. My husband was a Life Time member in Case / Zippo and had all of his knives out of the boxes and in display cases. I need to reunite each knife with the propr box / tin and what type of knife it is ie: coke bottle, hunter ect. So that I may sell them in a different venue. I am clueless as knives were never my thing. I appreciate any advise and help in this matter Valerie
 
I need to reunite each knife with the propr box / tin and what type of knife it is ie: coke bottle, hunter ect. So that I may sell them in a different venue.

Welcome. You do realize that people buying the membership needed to sell here is one of the things that keeps this site open, correct?

And selling your knives "in a different venue" does not support this site.

The site you want support from.

Just something to think about.
 
Assuming she's being genuine, I'm guessing her husband recently passed away, John, and she's looking for some help. We'll guide her the right way over in the Traditionals forum, which may include recommending she purchase a gold membership to sell them here. All she's asking for is help ID'ing the knives so she can match them up with boxes. That's pretty easy to do (tang stamps and bone colors is all she needs to look at).
 
Welcome. You do realize that people buying the membership needed to sell here is one of the things that keeps this site open, correct?

And selling your knives "in a different venue" does not support this site.

The site you want support from.

Just something to think about.
I tend to agree with the above....
I understand that knives are not your thing, but you could just as easily google the information you're asking people to provide. (Most, if not all, of the boxes/tins should have identifying information to use) It might even take less time to use that method than to take & post pictures of all the knives.


Assuming she's being genuine, I'm guessing her husband recently passed away
I had the same thought when I read her post...and it can be a daunting task to identify a group of knives when one has no experience or interest in them.
I've got a (relatively small) number of Case knives out of their boxes...but I haven't had the motivation to take the step I mentioned above. Maybe I should, so nobody else has to deal with it.
 
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Assuming she's being genuine, ...

No doubt. I'm just saying that, after the generous folks in the know over in Traditional help with this, as hhmoore hhmoore put it, "daunting task," that she consider paying that generosity back by supporting the site by selling the knives here with the proper membership.

Of course, there is no rule that says she has to.
 
No doubt. I'm just saying that, after the generous folks in the know over in Traditional help with this, as hhmoore hhmoore put it, "daunting task," that she consider paying that generosity back by supporting the site by selling the knives here with the proper membership.

Of course, there is no rule that says she has to.

You realize that if she's new to the site, she might not even realize that we have an exchange here, right?

I'm all for a well deserved dog pile, but lets take a step back and help a grieving widow who is unfamiliar with the way we do things here...
 
Traditional Forum. You can sell here with a paid membership as noted. A collector could well buy the entire collection.
 
Well I expected blow back, but you do not even know me or my motives which are just to identify the knives. I actually read the rules btw and I am educated enough not to ask for a price. If this is a problem just say so without impuning my character and I will move on. All I know about knives is that they are sharp, and what I learned on a Members only tour in Bradford. Now if you want to talk stained glass / warm glass I'm your gal We all have things that interest us or don't.
So if you want to help me / educate me, I am grateful, if you just want to talk trash at me or about me I kindly suggest you bugger off
 
So if you want to help me / educate me, I am grateful, if you just want to talk trash at me or about me I kindly suggest you bugger off

Nobody's impugning your character. What I am saying is that, if you are, in fact, grateful for any help/education you get here, you might show that gratitude by supporting the site that helped you by selling the knives here.

Again, you are not obliged to, but bear in mind the Traditionals folks are even more into "old timey courtesy" than us in General.
 
So just in case this doesn't get moved, I Ironlily , each box should have a label on the end or the bottom. It will have text something like this:


Item No 05365
33 6333 SS

Stockman BN RG
BUR GRN 2 08/19/08


So breaking that down:

The Item No is Case's own SKU for that particular knife. I don't know of a resource showing every single Case Item Number, but if you search for them you can often find it on the Internet.

33 - the base pattern number. 33 is a small serpentine stockman with squared bolsters. See more here: http://www.wrcase.com/case_college/patterns/knifepatterns.php

6333 SS- the full pattern number. 6 = type of handle material, 3 = number of blades, 33 = the base pattern number, above. This particular knife is Stainless Steel, hence the SS. The other option is CV, which is Chrome Vanadium steel.

See more here: http://www.wrcase.com/case_college/patterns/patternstamps.php
Here is the list of handle materials and the numbers/characters assigned to them: http://www.wrcase.com/case_college/handles/handlematerials.php

Stockman - that is the actual name of this pattern.

BN RG - Handle material and jigging pattern. Bone, Rogers jigged. This may also include a size or other designation. D or DL = Delrin, ST = Stag

List of jigging patterns used: http://www.wrcase.com/case_college/handles/jiggingpatterns.php

BUR GRN - The color. This particular knife is Bermuda Green. Case has the "BUR GRN" typo for that color.

The number 2 out there alone - I have no idea. Maybe the shift that day?

08/19/08 - The day the knife was made, which also shows the year.

Now, having that decoded, you can match it up with your knives. Each knife should have "tang stamps" on one or more of the blades. The tang is the flat part of the blade where it is attached to the handle. Case stamps the pattern number (in this case, 6333 SS) so that gets you most of the way there, unless he has ten knives of the same pattern.

The next thing you can decipher from the tang stamp is the year of manufacture. Case puts their logo on the tang, with either a series of dots, or dots and Xs, and changes the number of dots/stars each year. Luckily, they have a decoder page here: http://www.wrcase.com/case_college/tang_stamps/ It shows (roughly) every logo pattern for 10-year increments. If you click on an individual image, most of them expand to show you what each individual year in the 10-year grouping looks like.

Example:
2010 - 2019
F2010.jpg


When clicked on, expands to this, showing the removal of one dot or one X per year

F2010-2019.jpg


The 2000-2009 scheme is the same, but the base logo is a little different.

So from that, you can now determine the year it was made. That, along with the date stamp on your box, can narrow it down further. Then you just need to match up the colors. Sometimes that can be hard to do depending on the color name they used at the time. But you can look at their current colors on their web site to get an idea of what "Kentucky Bluegrass" or "Harvest Orange" looks like, and match that up with the abbreviations.

I would bet that you can figure out 80% or more of your knives or more just by matching up tang stamps to box labels. The rest, you would need to show pics to someone who knows what they are looking at.
 
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Well I expected blow back, but you do not even know me or my motives which are just to identify the knives. I actually read the rules btw and I am educated enough not to ask for a price. If this is a problem just say so without impuning my character and I will move on. All I know about knives is that they are sharp, and what I learned on a Members only tour in Bradford. Now if you want to talk stained glass / warm glass I'm your gal We all have things that interest us or don't.
So if you want to help me / educate me, I am grateful, if you just want to talk trash at me or about me I kindly suggest you bugger off

Don't worry about the insensitive posters. Most of us here will gladly help anyone, even without a paid membership. If you based your opinion of our community on these posters, you'd get the wrong idea about the majority of us. Please feel free to post or email any questions you have. My sincere condolences.
 
My condolences for your departed husband, may he rest in peace.

My apologies for the rude responses...the internet is a reflection of humanity.

jc57 has got ya covered. You are lucky because Case has the best identification system.

Some of the registered dealers on this forum sell off collections. If you don't want to sell them yourself, they may be able to help. I think Mike Latham of www.Collectorknives.net sells "new old stock."

Most people say Ebay is the best for knives like Case...but I don't buy/sell on line, so I don't know much :)
 
So just in case this doesn't get moved, I Ironlily , each box should have a label on the end or the bottom. It will have text something like this:


Item No 05365
33 6333 SS

Stockman BN RG
BUR GRN 2 08/19/08


So breaking that down:

The Item No is Case's own SKU for that particular knife. I don't know of a resource showing every single Case Item Number, but if you search for them you can often find it on the Internet.

33 - the base pattern number. 33 is a small serpentine stockman with squared bolsters. See more here: http://www.wrcase.com/case_college/patterns/knifepatterns.php

6333 SS- the full pattern number. 6 = type of handle material, 3 = number of blades, 33 = the base pattern number, above. This particular knife is Stainless Steel, hence the SS. The other option is CV, which is Chrome Vanadium steel.

See more here: http://www.wrcase.com/case_college/patterns/patternstamps.php
Here is the list of handle materials and the numbers/characters assigned to them: http://www.wrcase.com/case_college/handles/handlematerials.php

Stockman - that is the actual name of this pattern.

BN RG - Handle material and jigging pattern. Bone, Rogers jigged. This may also include a size or other designation. D = Delrin, ST = Stag

List of jigging patterns used: http://www.wrcase.com/case_college/handles/jiggingpatterns.php

BUR GRN - The color. This particular knife is Bermuda Green. Case has the "BUR GRN" typo for that color.

The number 2 out there alone - I have no idea. Maybe the shift that day?

08/19/08 - The day the knife was made, which also shows the year.

Now, having that decoded, you can match it up with your knives. Each knife should have "tang stamps" on one or more of the blades. The tang is the flat part of the blade where it is attached to the handle. Case stamps the pattern number (in this case, 6333 SS) so that gets you most of the way there, unless he has ten knives of the same pattern.

The next thing you can decipher from the tang stamp is the year of manufacture. Case puts their logo on the tang, with either a series of dots, or dots and Xs, and changes the number of dots/stars each year. Luckily, they have a decoder page here: http://www.wrcase.com/case_college/tang_stamps/ It shows (roughly) every logo pattern for 10-year increments. If you click on an individual image, most of them expand to show you what each individual year in the 10-year grouping looks like.

Example:
2010 - 2019
F2010.jpg


When clicked on, expands to this, showing the removal of one dot or one X per year

F2010-2019.jpg


The 2000-2009 scheme is the same, but the base logo is a little different.

So from that, you can now determine the year it was made. That, along with the date stamp on your box, can narrow it down further. Then you just need to match up the colors. Sometimes that can be hard to do depending on the color name they used at the time. But you can look at their current colors on their web site to get an idea of what "Kentucky Bluegrass" or "Harvest Orange" looks like, and match that up with the abbreviations.

I would bet that you can figure out 80% or more of your knives or more just by matching up tang stamps to box labels. The rest, you would need to show pics to someone who knows what they are looking at.

You put so much info in this post that it could be a sticky! Lots of great info here.
 
Welcome. You do realize that people buying the membership needed to sell here is one of the things that keeps this site open, correct?

And selling your knives "in a different venue" does not support this site.

The site you want support from.

Just something to think about.

So assuming you've gotten help here, why don't you have a paid badge? You could cut her a little slack since this is her first visit. I thought we were all here to discuss knives and help one another out regardless of whether we are able or willing to pay.
 
Hi...

In addition to our very knowledgeable folks in Traditional subforum, there is a Case Collector's Club website that you will easily find if you'll google Case Collector's Club. I can't post links because they aren't a supporting site. They'll have a lot of information about Case knives, drawings, pics, etc. The site will also show you how to read a Case model # and determine the knife model, covers (handle slab material), blade steel, etc.

That should help you match the knives with their boxes or tubes.
 
I appreciate everyones courtesy It is daunting and overwwhelming and not a pleasant task when you have zero interest in the subject. I just want to it to be done and move on and I all my Google searches sent me here ... go figure
 
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