The Tracking Number should be proof enough I think.
It is also in the interest of the shipping company to track the shipment to protect against a fraudulent claim if you insure the knive for whatever value.
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The Tracking Number should be proof enough I think.
It is also in the interest of the shipping company to track the shipment to protect against a fraudulent claim if you insure the knive for whatever value.
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Yep, same as Wicked says...
I've had a parcel go missing once myself, but the tracking number proved that it was sent... so I accepted it, and dealt with my loss... if it had been expensive, I'd have had it insured... and not lost out big time...
Packages rarely go missing though... they wouldn't still be in business if they did let that happen..
A friend who used to work at Royal Mail in the UK said to me that Royal Mail stopped employing part time staff over the xmas that the Xbox 360 was released, as some criminals were getting part time work and then stealing anything that weighed in at the right size and weight for the 360 console...
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I am a completely honest person, and have thought about the 'for sale' section and that a lot of sellers don't sell outside of the US... I would really like to think that when I can afford to buy an older classic blade, and when I've become a trusted member - it may make some sellers accommodate me re: shipping abroad, if all costs are covered from my end of course...there are still some honest people in the world afterall
Totally agree! Americans have some faith in us Europeans!
If I really want a knife - and it's not available in Europe first I ask friends if they know anyone who lives in US, and who would be kind enough to bring me the knife - on his first visit to Poland. My friend's mother who a year ago visited her daughter in US brought me my Hell Razor (I always wander what the customs officer thought when he saw this knife in 70 years old woman's baggage...
:thumbup: . Another friend brought me Heavy Duty. Now in a couple of months my friend moves to USA - so things are going to change for better If I really want a knife I just agree to pay customs. This way I do not bother myself and the seller - for the knife is insured and no cheating takes place.
Im my oppinion it's natural that the buyer takes the risk if anything happens with the knife during shipping if he asks for a lower value.
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Sorry, brother. I just can't do it and I can't suggest you do it.
This is where my professional and personal ethics merge perfectly.
If you are asking the question, you already know that you shouldn't do it.
Don't diminish yourself. And certainly never, ever for money.
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I would not be so concerned about loss, but more by the fact that you are being asked to commit a crime for the sake of someone elses pocket.
It is ill advised for anyone here to do this.
I would hate to hear of better odds at the trough due to someone spending time in the klink...
Do not be foolish.
Same problem with goods coming to Canada. Insure the knives for what they are worth. On the shipping documents put "Returning to Owner". He may not get charged the tax. However they usually don't see that comment and charge the tax anyway. I usually pay even if the knife is coming from a trade where I have paid on the orginal knife(Busse) and on the trade knife(Busse). Still worth it to me.:thumbup:
Contracts 101:
You make an offer to sell the knives for a certain price.
Buyer accepts your offer, forming a contract.
You, the seller, have the option of shipping the goods FOB (Free on Board). This means that as soon as you turn the goods over to a third-party shipping company, the buyer assumes the risk.
Assume that you sell me a $100 knife (obviously, not a Busse . . .), and the terms of the sale indicate that you are shipping me the knife FOB.
You give the knife to UPS, but the knife is lost/damaged/stolen in transit to me . . . because you shipped it FOB, YOU are NOT liable for the damages which occurred. Your responsibilities for the goods ended when UPS picked them up. Recovery for damages is now between me and UPS.
Insurance is something that you can offer, or the buyer can request . . . but if you specify that you are shipping FOB, your liabilities end when the shipper takes possession of the goods.
As for under-estimating a package's value when shipping overseas . . . No one should ever seek to excuse themselves from obeying the law. If someone asks you to break the law for them as part of your sale, find another buyer.
You make an offer to sell the knives for a certain price.
Buyer accepts your offer, forming a contract.
You, the seller, have the option of shipping the goods FOB (Free on Board). This means that as soon as you turn the goods over to a third-party shipping company, the buyer assumes the risk.
Assume that you sell me a $100 knife (obviously, not a Busse . . .), and the terms of the sale indicate that you are shipping me the knife FOB.
You give the knife to UPS, but the knife is lost/damaged/stolen in transit to me . . . because you shipped it FOB, YOU are NOT liable for the damages which occurred. Your responsibilities for the goods ended when UPS picked them up. Recovery for damages is now between me and UPS.
Insurance is something that you can offer, or the buyer can request . . . but if you specify that you are shipping FOB, your liabilities end when the shipper takes possession of the goods.
As for under-estimating a package's value when shipping overseas . . . No one should ever seek to excuse themselves from obeying the law. If someone asks you to break the law for them as part of your sale, find another buyer.
True . . . but only in the US and Canada. Free on Board originally was understood to mean origin, but we (the US) started adding origin and destination to FOB to be extra clear.
Either way, good catch/call on destination/origin