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Hickory n steel

Hickory n steel

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I'd sure appreciate it if someone can help me figure out the exact placement of the pommel pun on a 102 ( a 1986 if that matters )
I'm going to to a simple rehandle in stacked leather and I don't want to mess up the pommel.

The knife has a little wear and came to me with a broken handle, but the pin is still not visible.

If someone has a drilled pommel they could check with a caliper or maybe a potential method I could use to make the pin visible I would really appreciate it.
 
Rub the side of the pommel hard and fast on your jeans or shirt to warm it up then quickly exhale on it.
For a brief moment the pin may sometimes be visible in the 'mist'.

Another (untried) thought, try rubbing the side of the pommel with very fine emory to take away the buffed shine. No, I've never tried it myself but you are going to have to polish the pommel anyways after you re-pin it. You can be the ginny pig for the idea.
 
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This question was posed once before, and the response was as follows;

Makael said:
Rub the side of the pommel on your jeans back and forth then breathe on it. You will see the pin.
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I've tried it on a few knives, and I've been able to see the pin everytime.
 
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this brings a question to my mind......are the pins always in the same rough area per model? I would assume so within a tolerance, but I do not know.

I've always been able to see the pin by huffing on it and it usually becomes clear to see. also staring at and looking for the fine line edge circle I can usually find it.
 
jbmonkey jbmonkey
Huffing....Slang.... To inhale the fumes of a volatile chemical or substance as a means of becoming intoxicated.

That is the meaning I associate with huffing.
I looked it up, exhalation is another definition. :thumbsup:
Do kids still build plastic model kits anymore?
I never once thought about sniffing the glue recreationally.
 
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This method is from Joe Houser, take the knife and rub the spot where the pins are against your pant leg for 20-30 seconds and then exhale on that spot and your pins will become visible. I did this with a 110 and it worked, never tried it with a fixed blade knife.
 
Hickory n steel said:
I'd sure appreciate it if someone can help me figure out the exact placement of the pommel pun on a 102 ( a 1986 if that matters )
I'm going to to a simple rehandle in stacked leather and I don't want to mess up the pommel.

The knife has a little wear and came to me with a broken handle, but the pin is still not visible.

If someone has a drilled pommel they could check with a caliper or maybe a potential method I could use to make the pin visible I would really appreciate it.
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Don't wish to be negative in your efforts, but I have had only one out of ten that I got the pin out without damage. There is epoxy/glue around the pin in this area so you can't just punch it out because the aluminum pin mushrooms. Drilling does help, but is still a crap shoot. Really depends on what you consider acceptable. Drill one side about one half, then the other side. It is difficult to drill it straight out. I have tried heat and cold. I would like to reuse to be more traditional and save time/money. My plan now is to order aluminum bar stock and just make my own. If you do get it out cleanly, you should figure out a way to compress the leather as you align the new pin to get as tight a handle as you can. Pre-compress the leather by stacking together wetting/drying 2 or 3 times while compressing in a clamp. I am far from being experienced, but if I can help shoot me a PM to discuss.
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jbmonkey huffing and puffing........hopefully no inhaling.....

If you damage the pommel I wonder if you might be able to source a replacement, perhaps directly from Buck? @J Hubbard

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Like it!. My suggestion is to (off the knife) wet, compress, let dry 2 or 3 times to harden the leather. Especially veg tanned leather. If using the store bought pre-cut rings they are usually pretty hard anyway. This way you won't have to compress as hard when assembling and the leather sands smooth a lot easier. Keep leather skin or flesh going in the same direction for uniform lines.
 
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DeSotoSky said:
jbmonkey jbmonkey
Turns out you were right after all.
So he huffed, and he puffed, and he puffed, and he huffed, and at last he blew the house down, and he ate up the little pig.

Hickory n steel Hickory n steel
Sorry bout the thread digression, let us know if you find the pin.
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I woulda thought you were old enough to remember that one. The huffing of that other crap is the "new definition".
 
My plan was to possibly drill through the pin with a smaller drill bit hoping it would be easier to remove without damaging the pommel.[/QUOTE]

Keyword: Hoping :D

You may have seen this video that shows how the pin is installed:
 
I just watched the video eTexas linked. I found it interesting that the adhesive was just dabbed in a couple spots and not spread. Even under pressure I wouldn't have expected that little bit to cover the entire surface.
 
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