I think I bought a not so Spyderco.

I sent a nice little e-mail to him. I also went ahead and warned him not to expect positive feedback once I really inspect it. I guess I will see what happens.

Adam
 
I wouldn't throw it away. If you can't resolve it otherwise, it could make a good trainer knife. By trainer, I mean a dulled edge knife for combatives training.
 
I'm sorry to be a dissenting voice, gafirefighter, but IMO you don't have a legitimate beef with the seller. That's a pretty obvious disclaimer right there in the top of the description in a big font.

If somebody were selling a Chevy Impala and their ad said "May not start or go into gear" then I don't think you would have a right to be angry when you couldn't drive it away. Fine print is one thing, big ol' blue letters prominently displayed are another.

Besides, until you actually get it you can't be certain it is anything other than a factory knife that has had its markings buffed out (well, other than the terribly uneven grind). You might actually come out lucky on this in the end.
 
elkins45 said:
I'm sorry to be a dissenting voice, gafirefighter, but IMO you don't have a legitimate beef with the seller. That's a pretty obvious disclaimer right there in the top of the description in a big font.

If somebody were selling a Chevy Impala and their ad said "May not start or go into gear" then I don't think you would have a right to be angry when you couldn't drive it away. Fine print is one thing, big ol' blue letters prominently displayed are another.

Besides, until you actually get it you can't be certain it is anything other than a factory knife that has had its markings buffed out (well, other than the terribly uneven grind). You might actually come out lucky on this in the end.
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To a point I would say I agree with you. I still feel though that the seller was being deceptive, and someone who knows nothing about knives really would have no idea they bought crap. I am not yelling and screaming and pounding my fists, but I do not have to be happy.

I will say though, if you label it as a Chevy Impala, I would feel a bit unhappy when it showed up built with a Ford drive train. If you are going to call it a C36 Military, it should be all C36 military.

Adam
 
I spoke with the seller and he is actually quite easy to talk to. He stated that the knives came from a personal collection and he sells them for this individual. I do not know if this is true and I guess it does not really matter.

He also stated that I could send it back if I was not happy, or to not even open the box and have the postal service return it.

I guess I dodged a bullet on that one. I think I will know better next time and stay away from used knives, from sellers I do not know, on Ebay.

Thanks for all the responses.

Adam
 
Getting out of this for (maybe) the cost of shipping is doing well. :thumbup:
 
gafirefighter said:
I spoke with the seller and he is actually quite easy to talk to. He stated that the knives came from a personal collection and he sells them for this individual. I do not know if this is true and I guess it does not really matter.

He also stated that I could send it back if I was not happy, or to not even open the box and have the postal service return it.

I guess I dodged a bullet on that one. I think I will know better next time and stay away from used knives, from sellers I do not know, on Ebay.

Thanks for all the responses.

Adam
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don't be turned completely away from knives on ebay, just pay better attention before pulling the trigger on something.
 
Definitely email the seller via eBay email system and ask him not to ship and refund your money less $10 for his troubles.
If he still ships email him that you want to return it and get your money back minus his shipping.
Finally, if that doesn't work get PayPal involved, also email the seller that you are disputing and he can resolve it easily or you can give him bad feedback.

The worse the sellers feedback the more money ebay will take from him in commissions when he tries to sell for fixed amounts instead of starting at zero bids.

Its worth the effort. Play hard.

Good Luck,
Warhawk

P.S. I agree with the other forum members that advise you not to use the knife. That blade is definitely suspect to the point that it might break when you use it. You can hurt yourself seriously.
 
The auction has a ton of pics, and this looks like a genuine Spyderco to me, with great lockup. He did say this:
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Knife is used, scratched and/or have imperfections and may have been re-worked, re-sharpened, or re-buffed
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My guess is the blade was a mess and someone put it on a belt sander and/or wheel to clean it up a little, and the logo was ground off. You should be able to tell the first time you sharpen it if it's a pre-heat-treat blade or not.
 
wsfarrell said:
The auction has a ton of pics, and this looks like a genuine Spyderco to me, with great lockup. He did say this:
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Knife is used, scratched and/or have imperfections and may have been re-worked, re-sharpened, or re-buffed
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My guess is the blade was a mess and someone put it on a belt sander and/or wheel to clean it up a little, and the logo was ground off. You should be able to tell the first time you sharpen it if it's a pre-heat-treat blade or not.
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It does very much look genuine at first glance, and that is why I bid on it from my phone. The thing is, not only is there no Spyderco emblem, there are no markings on the blade at all. Not Colorado, USA, S30V, nothing. I could understand grinding the emblem off the blade, but not the rest of it.

Again, it was my poor judgement. I should have paid better attention.

Adam
 
gafirefighter said:
It does very much look genuine at first glance, and that is why I bid on it from my phone. The thing is, not only is there no Spyderco emblem, there are no markings on the blade at all. Not Colorado, USA, S30V, nothing. I could understand grinding the emblem off the blade, but not the rest of it.

Again, it was my poor judgement. I should have paid better attention.

Adam
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Exactly. Those markings are fairly deep. They are in an area where there would be no logical reason to grind them out. Not to mention that doing so would thin the blade tang and require thicker washers to compensate. Spyderco does not ship knives like that and the seller has a well-earned reputation for selling knives that have been assembled from mis-matched parts, often of questionable origin.

Sure, there's an off chance it would give years of dependable service, but what are the odds. Me, I like my fingers too much to trust anything that guy, or travis... sells.

On the brighter side, I'm glad to hear he's offered to take it back. I think you're doing the wise thing to take him up on it.

Paul
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Well, it showed up today. I was not going to open it, but I had to just to see how bad it really was. Let me tell you, it was bad. I actually to some more pictures to show areas that could not even be seen on Ebay. Not only was noting even on the blade, the jimping looked like it was done by a 5 year old.

It is already in the mail on the way back. I think I will stick my head in and see what New Graham has in stock.

Thanks,

Adam
 
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