I "want" GEC to make a fishing knife that has one particular feature!

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I've got a Ben Hogan (non-lockback) that is almost perfect for me as a "fishing" knife (i.e. utility, and fillet). It would be ideal - if it only had a lanyard tube. I could attach it to my fishing vest ... the idea that I might drop it overboard (off a canoe or kayak) makes me very reluctant to carry it with me on these activities. Fixed blades and folders made for fishing just don't "cut it" (bad pun) with me - except for the CASE folder, they are soulness, molded conglomerations of gaudy plastic/rubber and weak stainless alloys. I want a "good" fishing knife (in a trad configuration) ... and I'm willing to pay for it. As I get older I find that I'd rather have "1" really good anything than a bunch of mediocre stuff.

A Ben Hogan with a muskrat clip or wharncliffe in 440C with a lanyard tube would cause me to get downright "giddy" ... like many of my fellow trad forum members get when the words "barlow" or "peanut" are even hinted at. :D The word "Jack" has even been known to cause grown men to swoon.

If it had a small hook sharpening stone I'd probably have to be hospitalized due to "unrestrained" happiniess! For the more experienced members of our forum - is there a craftsmen/service provider that can add a lanyard tube to a Ben Hogan? Please e-mail or PM me if you've got somebody in mind. Thanks

I understand that this really is a pipe dream - GEC or Queen or Canal Street have got to focus on products that more than one guy in Western Illinois has decided is a "must have". I get that ... but I'm a KnifeNut so I want what I want :thumbup:
 
<shrug>

I'd buy one. Ben Hogan, Muskrat Clip, Sharpening Stone Shield, Lanyard Hole. Yellow or Orange Bone or Acrylic? I'd be all over it. You should suggest it as the Forum Knife.

Would it still be a Ben Hogan if they put a Hook Remover with it?
 
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If they put a hook disgorger tool (like the old colonials and CASE) I would defintely have to get my "old fart" meds adjusted!
 
Jack Black said:
With a bottle-opener obviously! :D
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Like this Jack :-)

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Pete
 
I'd go for a large GEC toothpick pattern in 440c, like Pete's jack in yellow delrin with a hook sharpener for a shield. Please, sign me up!!
 
I suggested this pattern to Bill Howard about a year ago. His reply was "HMMM".
 
I agree a hook sharpener shield, I've been looking for a old one at the flea market.

Pete
 
I'd even "settle" on a bail to attach a line & clip if that is more feasible than a larger tube - if that is the only way to maintain the structural integrity of the rear bolsters, scales, covers, and spring by using a small tube and bail on my Ben Hogan. I really appreciate it's halfstops and its got the longest, and shortest depth (edge to spine) blade combination in the GEC line-up. Just as it is a Hogan is a perfectly acceptable fishing knife ... with a few "tweaks" it would become an instant classic (IMHO).

Jenner515 added another must have - delrin covers.

Ben Hogan Pattern (half-stops on both the blade and the tool).
Northfield style front bolster
Barehead rear end
Muskrat clip blade
Hook disgorger/de-scaler/bottle opener (Jenner515, Blackjack :thumbup:)
440C steel
Jigged delrin covers (Jenner515 :thumbup:)
Lanyard tube or bail
Stone shield (Jenner515 :thumbup:)

If GEC made a "version" of that traditional toothpick style pictured above I'd consider it ... if it had a way to attach a lanyard or cord. I've got a couple of Colonial/Case toothpicks myself ... it's a classic pattern. Still waiting for some of the "old hands" on this forum to name the bladesmith that can modify my Hogan?
 
It still needs some work on the design, but I quite like the look of how Rough Rider did this lanyard attachment on their Dogbone

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(Sorry, don't own this knife, and couldn't find a clearer pic)
 
I'd buy several of these if GEC pulled the trigger on it. :thumbup:

In my opinion, this Schrade is my favorite all-time design for fishing knives. I've never been a big fan of the toothpick frame, so this being on a trapper frame really appeals to me.
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Nice-looking knives Corey. I see Schrade replaced the de-scaler with a saw. Did that interfere with the use of the disgorger at all (guess a sprung guard could always be fitted)?
 
Jack Black said:
Nice-looking knives Corey. I see Schrade replaced the de-scaler with a saw. Did that interfere with the use of the disgorger at all (guess a sprung guard could always be fitted)?
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You noticed that. The saw is a strange choice I think for that knife. It really is a double-rowed sharp toothed saw, which couldn't work at all as a descaler. I always fillet fish anyway so I never use a descaler but it would make more sense on that knife than the saw. I never contemplated how the saw would interfere with the hook disgorger, but I have no doubt it would get stuck on soft surfaces inside a fish's throat. I usually use a long needle nose pliers for that duty.
I just like the fish shield and the trapper frame.
 
:cool:I do not own a knife of the model you describe, but I suggest you look carefully at the knife to see if there is a place on the frame or the scales where it can be drilled through or a bail can be attached. If it is possible, probably any knifemaker or gunsmith could make the modification. My level of expertise is only "bushknife engineering" but I have been able to attach lanyards to pocketknives, sheath knives and machetes with very simple tools.
Faiaoga
 
comoha said:
You noticed that. The saw is a strange choice I think for that knife. It really is a double-rowed sharp toothed saw, which couldn't work at all as a descaler. I always fillet fish anyway so I never use a descaler but it would make more sense on that knife than the saw. I never contemplated how the saw would interfere with the hook disgorger, but I have no doubt it would get stuck on soft surfaces inside a fish's throat. I usually use a long needle nose pliers for that duty.
I just like the fish shield and the trapper frame.
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It IS a strange choice, though I've sometimes seen the descaler mistakenly referred to as a saw. It looks like quite a good saw, similiar to the Victorinox one, but those sharp teeth I think would even be dangerous - also when it comes to opening bottles of beer (the saw-blade on my Mauser Officers Knife, which has the Vic combination tool on the end, has a removeable guard). I've never found descalers a great deal of use myself, and that design of disgorger never was much use, and could be really messy if a hook had gone right down, but I'm sure the saw would make it a lot MORE messy! I think most anglers will carry the right tools for the job anyway, but as a design I think Schrade got that one wrong, even though it's a great-looking knife :) I feel the same way as you about the Toothpick frame.
 
Ahem.... why not just drill a hole in the back end? Obviously, you'll have to pick the right spot, so that you don't damage the spring or get in the way of the blade, but it can work on most single-blade pocket knives, or jack knives where the blades are on the same end.
Here's my Ankermesser, in which I have drilled a hole for a lanyard. Works great! ;)
 

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Puukoman - My concern with doing it "myself" on my Hogan is that I don't how the rear bolsters are attached. I'm toying with the idea of drilling out the bolsters (but not through the scales or the spring) and attaching a "bail" ... since it only has to support the weight of the knife if I drop it - the mechanical stress would be very low. I'm actually "bloviating" KnifeNut style about what I want GEC to do for me! :D
 
comoha said:
I'd buy several of these if GEC pulled the trigger on it. :thumbup:

In my opinion, this Schrade is my favorite all-time design for fishing knives. I've never been a big fan of the toothpick frame, so this being on a trapper frame really appeals to me.
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They've already got the pattern for it, same size as the Schrade trapper frame too. If they put it on a toothpick pattern then I think I'd want something longer than the #12 (4" closed, ~3" blade). If using an existing pattern, the #48 already has a longer blade in a slightly smaller package (3 7/8" closed, ~3 1/8" blade)
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