O.k. guys it's time for me to eat sh!t. I judged The Knife Outlet to Quikely last week and I just want to clear their name. I didn't know that the knife was put in a envelope until Fred posted back, when I took it to the post office the post master said he personaly would package it so nothing would happen to it because i stress it to him it need to be in good shape and I paid $12 bucks for that promise . but for the clip ware it had that when I recived it that was one of the reason I sent it back, Iquess I should have noted it in the package. So in closeing let me again stress how sorry that I am for my post and Fred the refund is not expected, and to everyone who replyed to my 1st post I apologize to you all also, Fred is lucky to have all of backing him like you did.
Todd Foster
Todd Foster