I will never buy another CRKT knife! :mad:

Al, I just got through talking to Rod at CRKT, and he said that he will send me a companion as a replacement. Looks like a really good knife to me, especially with the two sheaths.
 
The spine whack test is a good way to prove... nothing except break some knives.

lemme explain: most locks can whitstand severe pressure, including linerlocks, but a frequent tapping on the back of the blade will make any lock fail, if it has the right frequency and strength. after you hit it once, maybe lightly, the locking device loosens up a little, and it you hit it again fast enough, the lock itself can't correct that... so just keep hitting and eventually it will fail.
The resonance in the material can cause any material to break, which is also the same reason a troop of soldier can't run on a bridge in pass.
Extremely solid locks, such as the rolling lock and the axis are extremely vulnerable to this. the only way the axis lock get's it invulnerable status is because they used stronger springs the REKAT in the rolling lock to keep the locking bar in place.

As much as I'd hate to say this, the way Coldsteel tests their locks is better, and more realistic then a spine tap or whack test. and here do the axis and rolling lock shine... the weight they can carry is awsome. And which things do you cut require a strong lock or a stable lock? In daily use, a plain lockback will do.
 
Originally posted by ElectricZombie
Al, I just got through talking to Rod at CRKT, and he said that he will send me a companion as a replacement. Looks like a really good knife to me, especially with the two sheaths.
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Better start complaining about the sheaths now, if you want to catch up with everyone else who hates them. (I think I'm one of the few people in North America who doesn't dislike the sheaths that came with my Companion.)
 
my companion sheaths sucked - wish ya would get 1 good 1 vs 2 crummy ones - love the knife, hate the sheath but thats just me.....


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FWIW -- I have over 20 CRKT folders -- all liner locks except my S-2. All have passed the liner lock whack test.

Still, must say that now owning 4 frame locks, that I think that is the way to go. If they're well done, as all of mine are, there is virtually no chance of lock failure. Of the 4 I own, I'm convinced that the S-2 has a lock which absolutely cannot fail. Unless the frame piece breaks, it ain't gonna happen.

I still carry 2 liner locks as my primary self defense piece -- rotated. The Spyderco Wegner and the CRKT large Apache. I may add the Apache 2 to the group also. I really like it a lot size-wise.
 
If I were a manufacturer, I'd make it very clear that doing the "spine whack" test constitutes intentional abuse and voids the warranty, releasing me from any obligation to replace or repair the knife.

Abuse.
That's ALL it is. The Spine whack does not simulate any proper use of the knife. I've carried liner locks for many years and I can still count to ten without taking off my socks. How can this BE? :rolleyes:

Reminds me of the stunts Lynn Thompson pulls, chucking a lockback into a vise and hanging a load of weights off of it. Great Lynn! Now I know that if I ever need to life 70 pounds of dead weight with the spine of my blade, I won't lose all my fingers for my stupidity!

Does anyone else find this as absurd as I do?
Looks great in the ads, but it doesn't mean a damn thing when it comes to lock performance.

I wonder how many perfectly good knives have been damaged/ruined by this meaningless "test?"

Seems the manufacturers would have caught on by now.
 
It's certainly not abuse. Any folding knife, and certainly ones of higher quality/expense should be able to pass this simple test...especially since the knife in question is being marketed as a defensive/tactical knife. Yes, a knife is not very likely to encounter this type of force in real life...I've only had something like that happen once or twice. However, it might. I'm planning on the worst case scenario. Having a rugged/tough lock is piece of mind. Also, I don't see how you can disregard this test when Spyderco and various other companies do it. Regardless of the spine whack tests real world value, I think it says a lot about the quality of the product your getting. If I spend $50-$100 or more dollars on a knife, it should live up to all of my standards, or a least my safety concerns.
 
It would make as much sense to hit the hammer of a pistol, while cocked, with a ball-peen hammer to see if you could make it fall. My experience is that sometime it would and other times it wouldn't,proving.........nothing. BTW, let me know when it falls with the LAWKS engaged, please.Needless to say, I am dead against abusing a good knife to make some writer look good!:barf:
 
Didn't Colt used to advertise its revolvers with the slogan, "Hammer the hammer?" As a way of demonstrating the internal safety on their revolvers could be trusted? (This was a long time ago, not anytime in, oh, the last fifty years.)
 
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