I would like to learn about Blade Steel

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Hi, I did a search on Steel, Blade, and Blade Steel and did not really find what I was hoping for.
If there is a thread about this or good sites please let me know.

Basically many knives have many different types of steel.
What is the strongest steel used in knife blades?
What is the most reliable and durable?
What should I look for to get a great blade?
Are there tests I can do to a steel blade to know it is quality?
 
Hi, I did a search on Steel, Blade, and Blade Steel and did not really find what I was hoping for.
If there is a thread about this or good sites please let me know.

Basically many knives have many different types of steel. This is correct.
What is the strongest steel used in knife blades? Strongest for what application? What pricepoint?
What is the most reliable and durable? Durable for what application, environment, and price?
What should I look for to get a great blade? Depends what you like, what you need, and how much cash you have to spend.
Are there tests I can do to a steel blade to know it is quality? Such as?

Welcome to Bladeforums.
Your search is too broad, that is why you did not get any specific results. The topic that you want to learn about is not going to be obtained in a single sitting. If you want to learn about steels, pick one and start reading about in particular. When you do this, you will learn what others steels it is closely compared to, then you will begin to navigate a variety of steels.

Search the forums for specific steel types and that will get you started. Hwever, be specific. Typing the words "steel rypes" into the search engine here is like staring at the home page. Rade, read, search, read and search some more. There is around 14 years worth of information on this site.
 
Welcome to Bladeforums.
Search the forums for specific steel types and that will get you started. There is around 14 years worth of information on this site.

Thanks RevDevil. So, I do not know specific steel types to search for. Is there a list of modern day/currently used steel types, that I can use to look through and then really get started?? This is why my search was so broad.
 
Thanks RevDevil. So, I do not know specific steel types to search for. Is there a list of modern day/currently used steel types, that I can use to look through and then really get started?? This is why my search was so broad.

Here's a fairly substantial list.
 
It kind of depends on your intended usage as well. Folding knife, fixed blade, camp knife, chopper, ect. Take a look at 154cm, s30v, s35v for stainless and 1095, 52100, infi for non stainless blades. We can help narrow it down for you with more info from you.
 
Basically many knives have many different types of steel. This is correct.Yep!

What is the strongest steel used in knife blades? Strongest for what application? What pricepoint?
Strongest for everyday life, tactical use and/or Survival use. Price Point how about $30 to $60 and $70 to $100 and $200 + ranges

What should I look for to get a great blade? Depends what you like, what you need, and how much cash you have to spend. I like cool looking and functional.

Are there tests I can do to a steel blade to know it is quality? Such as? Such as tapping blade with a nickel to hear the sound or something like that.
 
I suggest you lurk. Each time you see a steel name, type it into the search for blade forum to see if anyone reviewed it or examined it. from there you will learn some minor basics. Later you can look at Crucible,bohler uddeholm, carpenter, and other steel companies websites. They have a nice review of their steel including the make up.

With different steels, there is a winner at each price level. You can't expect to find M390 on a gas station toss away knife. 8cr13mov or 440 series would be more likely to be found at that level. Also there is no over all winner. Each person has their own preference. I prefer Elmax and M390. Someone earlier mentioned AUS8. There are a lot of steels.

Here is an important note. EACH STEEL CAN BE REALLY DIFFERENT AT DIFFERENT HARDNESSES. I suggest you lurk and look at steel reviews. Some prefer High Carbon, some prefer stainless, some prefer iron balance some prefer cobalt or chromium balance in their composistion (stellite 6k) Just lurk and learn. If you have questions, search before you ask then ask.

You will find steel can get complicated like Sleipnir vs D2 vs CPM D2
Or my favorite war of the steels! 154cm Ats34 CPM154 RWL and N690Co lol just learn and test. Make your own test and review others test

here are some random links to look at
http://www.bucorp.com/knives.htm
http://www.knifeblog.com/knife-steel-comparison-charts/
http://www.bucorp.com/files/BOHLER_M390_KNIFE.PDF -m390 steel
http://www.bucorp.com/files/UDDEHOLM_ELMAX.pdf -elmax
http://www.bucorp.com/files/BOHLER_N690.pdf -N690
http://www.crucible.com/PDFs/DataSheets2010/dsM4v1 2010.pdf -M4
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h88/huugh/steel/1.jpg-HUGE list
http://www.alphaknifesupply.com/Pictures/Info/Steel/CPMS35VN-DS.pdf -s35vn
http://www.kau.se/sites/default/files/Dokument/subpage/2010/02/26_349_359_pdf_19432.pdf -PM steel vrs steel


Nice little BF found chart
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...mparison-for-EDC-Knives-v4-0?highlight=waving
 
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It kind of depends on your intended usage as well. Folding knife, fixed blade, camp knife, chopper, ect. Take a look at 154cm, s30v, s35v for stainless and 1095, 52100, infi for non stainless blades. We can help narrow it down for you with more info from you.

Thanks Cricketdave, (like the username) My EDC Benchmade says 154cm, my SOG Seal Pup just says Taiwan, Buck Paklite says 140.
 
EACH STEEL CAN BE REALLY DIFFERENT AT DIFFERENT HARDNESSES.

Thanks. I understand about searching so tons of repeat answers keep popping up in the forum. Sorry but I really did not know where to start with this one. Mainly I just would like to be able to go to Gun/Knife shows, see an nice looking knife for a descent price and hold it, feel it, open it or not, wiggle it, etc.. and have a good feeling that this will be a great knife for the money, as a gift, or whatever.
 
(sog is probably AUS8)
you will find many ppl here have brand wars [spyderco and Chris reeves for life![and fox knives usa depending on my mood]] so i may be bias when I say, buy a Paramilitary 2 (has a cult like following) or a a good solid knife. Hold it test it clean it up then trade it. Keep cycling. No blade play is usually found on higher priced knives (or fixed blades) If you go to a blade show (this may sound odd, but try any knife above 150$ USUALLY (this may come back to bite me) you get what you pay for.
 
Actually those were just tabs i had open and forgot to close lol. they may seem overwhelming (some of them are my preference steels and some considered "Super steels" (opinions) ) but read over them and come back over them in 2 weeks when you learn more and youll be able to tell more from it
 
You would almost be better off searching brands rather than just steel. There are so many good companies that use many different steels that you can pick a good company and then look at what they offer and then just search prices to see if you can find one at a price you can live with. Kershaw, zero tolerance, bench made, spyderco, chris reeve. You are unlikely to get a lemon from any of those, there are many more that do just a good a job those are just off the top of my head. Then there are fixed blades, kabar, esee, becker, scrapyard, swamp rat, busse, randall again all offer a wide selection and have good qualities. Those are all in no particular order and just a quick list at random.
 
Thanks so much for my Quick Start Guide guys. Time flys when your having fun and now it is already past midnight. Must force myself to sleep some. I got lots of Steel and Company homework to do over the next 43,200 minutes.
 
The problem with asking what the "best" steel is is that cutting tools become dull by several different methods, and depending on your intended use of the knife, some steels might be better or worse. If you're looking for sheer strength, get just about anything in 1/4" thick steel of any sort, and it will be strong. Might not be much of a cutter, depending on the design, but it will be strong. What you want is a knife that is...

Tough - Resists shattering or chipping
Hard - Resists bending or edge deformation
Abrasion resistant - resists being worn away by what you're cutting
Corrosion resistant - resists being chemically altered by various substances

There are lots and lots of really well made knives out there, made out of steels that frequently excel at one or two of these factors, but any blade material is going to be a balance of these, and your categories "Everyday life, tactical, survival" are still so broad as to be effectively meaningless.

Everyday life: Do you mean something you keep in your pocket all day, every day, treat with benign neglect, etc? Or are you going to take it out every night and oil it? Sharpen daily, or occasionally? What's your level of sharpening experience? What equipment do you have?

Tactical: Do you have knife-fighting fantasies? If so, what style of knife fighting have you studied? OR Do you mean more like a combat knife (which opens just about anything under the sun, but is rarely, if ever used to harm a person)?

Survival: Are you skilled in survival? Do you prefer a thin mora-type knife, or a thicker knife that you can't break even by prying rocks apart? Do you need to survive in a saltwater mangrove swamp, or an arid desert, or a boreal forest in winter, or on the Appalachian Trail in Spring? Do you picture this knife dressing prey, cleaning fish, or just whittling while you are 10 feet from your tent?

I don't mean to sound like a jackass, but your answers to all of those questions would influence not only which steel you chose for your dream knife, but which knife design, including length, thickness, handle material, blade material, grind, etc, etc, etc. There are thousands of different knives out there, and dozens of blade materials (I don't just say "steel" here, because you can also buy H1 knives from Spyderco, or titanium from several makers, and both excel for some tasks). The reason for this embarrassment of choices is not merely because people want to make money, it's because the question "What's the best knife?" has thousands of answers, each of which is right for a particular person, for a particular job. Stick around, read lots of threads, read reviews, and visit a local knife shop... get your hands on a few knives that have good reviews, and see if you like the feel of them in your hand. You'll find the right answer to the question for you... eventually. :)

(For what it's worth, I think a person could do much much worse than getting a Spyderco Delica as a first knife. It could end up being the last knife you buy also... but probably won't be.)
 
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